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    #1

    ss artillery Cap

    Hello
    i need help for the cap
    i don't no if it's good or not
    thanks a lot for your help
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    Again the insignia are original.

    Ian

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      #3
      Visor caps are not my area, but just from a gut response this cap may be a reworked WWI EM/NCO artillery visor.

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        #4
        Originally posted by herrgeezer View Post
        Visor caps are not my area, but just from a gut response this cap may be a reworked WWI EM/NCO artillery visor.
        I agree with you judging the shape, lining and headband. This is one reason that Imperial technical service/artillery caps are so hard to find, most are now SS Artillery caps

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          perhaps

          Originally posted by phild View Post
          I agree with you judging the shape, lining and headband. This is one reason that Imperial technical service/artillery caps are so hard to find, most are now SS Artillery caps
          true, but always a possibility some were period altered to WSS use but who knows?

          also might be a franky from an early Heer visor

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            #6
            Originally posted by drbill View Post
            true, but always a possibility some were period altered to WSS use but who knows?

            also might be a franky from an early Heer visor
            Agreed. I have a pre-WWII cap that definitely shows signs of having had a skull and eagle applied to it to create a W-SS artillery cap. This was reportedly done routinely - the question always remains "when".

            Nice looking cap.

            s/f Robert

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              #7
              fake insignia

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                #8
                Who is the seller?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by biohazard69 View Post
                  fake insignia
                  I agree.

                  Chris

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by herrgeezer View Post
                    Visor caps are not my area, but just from a gut response this cap may be a reworked WWI EM/NCO artillery visor.

                    And that would explain the clearly replaced TR period visor.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by herrgeezer View Post
                      Visor caps are not my area, but just from a gut response this cap may be a reworked WWI EM/NCO artillery visor.


                      I believe you are correct, but I think some ended up being recycled and used by the SS before the war. There are several SS studio photo's floating around with branch colored piped visors that are identical caps with SS insignia.

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                        Originally posted by phild View Post
                        I agree with you judging the shape, lining and headband. This is one reason that Imperial technical service/artillery caps are so hard to find, most are now SS Artillery caps
                        Did these imperial caps have black bands vs. green?

                        Thanks,

                        Fred

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by fldjr View Post
                          Did these imperial caps have black bands vs. green?

                          Thanks,

                          Fred

                          Black.

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                            #14
                            To add to the conversion theory, here's another example of a likely converted Imperial cap turned SS. The bill has been replaced from the tiny WWI types to a more substantial WWII one.

                            The velvet band and piping made these good candidates for pre-1945 conversion, and post WWII for that matter. The shade of green wool on these is close to early WWII as well.

                            s/f Robert
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                              I have a similar version without any provision for a chin strap, mine has a great saddle shape, velvet band, but is clearly (IMO) a ww1 visor with SS insignia. I believe these ww1 caps (with the spring band removed) are the primary source for the period photo's of branch piped colored SS visor caps.
                              Last edited by dhunter93; 04-04-2020, 04:57 PM.

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