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**fw_190** · 08-28-2010, 02:26 PM

harry, danke.

das sind keine beintaschen, das sieht nur so aus. sondern die lange schlupfjacke die mit einem stoffband durch die beine gezogen wurde. wie bei der schwimmweste.

gruss
fw190

**Harry** · 08-28-2010, 02:37 PM

I see...

**Willi Z.** · 08-28-2010, 03:46 PM

Great information fw190! Thanks! Is there another page in that book which describes the Winternotbekleidung?

Yes, we can certainly close the chapter on any thoughts about a GBJ type item.

**Gene** · 08-28-2010, 04:11 PM

Personally I love that eagle sewn directly on to the jacket

**Bond** · 08-28-2010, 04:18 PM

Hi,

Is it possible for someone to translate the German language posts into English please?

as my German is not up to it.

Thanks Jerry

PS I have just completed a course in basic Dutch, so I am trying to learn another language.

**Richard P** · 08-29-2010, 02:26 AM

Babelfish has a pretty easy and fast translation website.

I think the early style breast eagles direct embroidered and sewn on, look perfectly plausable for their intended use. I would like to see some current fakes that look like they do as I must admit....I am not up on current Luft. breast eagle fakes.

Richard

**fw_190** · 08-29-2010, 04:46 AM

hallo willi,

habe mich geirrt, der winterschutzanzug wird in dem buch nur per bild gezeigt. im text wird er nicht extra beschrieben.

gruss
fw190

**Willi Z.** · 08-29-2010, 07:53 AM

Thanks fw190! I just thought I would ask since I would have liked to read some more.

Richard, I do not have any doubt on the authenticity of the 1st model eagle. Not that I authenticate items by the presence or absence of fakes, but there would be no market to create such a fake, IMO.

**Harry** · 08-29-2010, 04:14 PM

Here is an image posted by RamJet in another thread, it clearly shows the same smock, but with a standard breast eagle

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**Jos L C** · 08-29-2010, 05:41 PM

All the ones we've seen sofar all have different eagles, odd ..

I don't have problems with any of these eagles though.

Again one of those survival items which leaves us in the dark when it comes to information, but I bet the info is out there somewhere.

Still looking for written info about the flag pole, mirror etc.., we've seen a few era pics of the flag pole, none of the mirror etc..

About this suit I'd like to know who got them and was it stored in bomber survival kits etc ?
Think not for fighters, too much to carry, all they got was in the pockets and a small life boat .., the bomber kits were much larger.

Jos.

**frank savage** · 08-30-2010, 03:43 AM

Originally posted by Harry View Post

here is another with a supposed 1st pattern embroidered directly to the anorak..I still have doubts....

I'm with you.

**Jos L C** · 08-30-2010, 06:14 AM

Harry & Frank, you guys say the anorak with directly sewn drooptail is fake or only the eagle ?
I think it's very unlikely that they had a fake eagle done on a original anorak, too complicated this way IMO ..

Jos.

**RamJet** · 08-30-2010, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by Harry View Post

Here is an image posted by RamJet in another thread, it clearly shows the same smock, but with a standard breast eagle

Thanks, Harry. I intended also to post the pic again but couldn't find it fast enough yesterday.

**Harry** · 08-30-2010, 06:51 AM

No..The anoraks are good, but the eagles are strange - the stitching patterns that make up the 2 early-type eagles shown are completely different from each other, and from the 'accepted norm'. Perhaps they were 'foreign' made under contract.... It would be relatively easy for someone in the business of already producing embroidered fakes to knock these out on order.

**Rami Soininen** · 08-30-2010, 07:28 AM

Hi,

Interesting thread. I have seen years ago this kind of anorak with 1st pattern eagle and it was embroidered directly to anorak. Nevertheless, the anorak was also "denazified", swastika was removed from the eagle.

I was wondering years about anorak what it was and thanks to Fw190

it is now clear to me.

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