m24 stickgrenade

[milsurp]

Thanks for the offer, but it was a request for reidmuller to provide a photo.

Whist there is some debate over the authenticity of the handle itself, the handle is certainly not original to the rest of the grenade, because as I said, a 43 marked handle should have a crimped collar, which isn't the case here.

Of course Craig, do you want a picture of the marking on the stick (odp 43) or the marking in the head?? (rr god knows) let me know
best regards
Doc Rock

[DOC_KÜSTENART]

Ah ok, sorry, so let's wait to Reidmullers answer

[Glenn Barbaritz]

the handle is certainly not original to the rest of the grenade, because as I said, a 43 marked handle should have a crimped collar, which isn't the case here.

Craig, I pointed that fact out in post #9 but as I also stated and We all know is true, items were not always made "textbook". many pieces of equipment and clothing used up old stock even years down the production line. this forum is loaded with such untouched examples in the advanced search archives. unless someone can show proof of the known copy and they are identical then I must agree with Adam that this is a true stick. if in fact it is a genuine stick then I believe the cap in question is period factory produced. I also agree with Doc that this thread seems to be never ending. what a can of worms you opened Doc! and Craig, please dont feel Im arguing with you, I know from past experience that you are good with grenades. if you have concerns about something on this piece I of course know there might be a true issue and not that you just dont personally like it. I know theres other grenade enthusiasts here, please speak up People. Glenn

[DOC_KÜSTENART]

ehehe Yes Glenn, I really opened a can of worms and I LOVE IT!!!
guys, I'm enjoying and learning a lot with all your comments

[reidmuller]

my fake "odp" marked stick

[reidmuller]

Sorry about the size

[reidmuller]

[Glenn Barbaritz]

wow! those are very close markings! there are only very slight differences between the two. the only difference that I can distinguish would be the WaA. it looks as though Adams eagle has a border around it where as Doc's would appear to be un bordered. is that my eyes Adam or is that what it appears to be in person also? other than that the positioning of the letters to the WaA and the spacing/sizing is pretty much spot on. some repros are just too damn good! ass hole rip off artists! Glenn

[milsurp]

Thanks for the photos

I want to do something in photoshop, but I can't do it with these photos as the deffinition isn't there. I have asked the friend I gave my repro to, to photograph it, I seem to remember there is a little more deffinition in his. I would say that on the face of it, the stamps do seem to differ, but let me run with my little experiment and I will post back here later today.

Glenn, no worries, I agree that there are variations and field modifications, it's just this is the most prolific reproduction stamp on stick grenades today, so let's be 101% sure before we give it the OK. One point I have noticed in the photos, is that when the collar was taken off the handle, the wood looked damaged around the top where a crimped collar may have once sat...

I'll post back later tonight.

[DOC_KÜSTENART]

Mh, This stamp doesn't looks like mine. My letters are bigger, and it's a different tipography
"One point I have noticed in the photos, is that when the collar was taken off the handle, the wood looked damaged around the top where a crimped collar may have once sat..."

I'm agree with this Craig, I thougt it too.

[FestungSpanien]

Hi chaps
I must admitt that this is one of the best firearms thread that I have ever come across.I really appreciatte your efforts to reach a conclusion
This is the real spirit of this forum.
Thanks all
Doc, I think your set is a real one
Ace

[reidmuller]

wow! those are very close markings! there are only very slight differences between the two. the only difference that I can distinguish would be the WaA. it looks as though Adams eagle has a border around it where as Doc's would appear to be un bordered. is that my eyes Adam or is that what it appears to be in person also? other than that the positioning of the letters to the WaA and the spacing/sizing is pretty much spot on. some repros are just too damn good! ass hole rip off artists! Glenn

Glenn the WaA dosent have a border from what i can see but you can see the WaA and number is alot flatter also the markings are bigger even though the smaller pics you can see on the origional its about 1/3 the width of the stick on my fake its about 1/5th the size also the 3 of the 43 is very different
its like a fingerprint and very different also just noticed the origional looks to be branded and on my fake pressed into the wood i am still 100% sure the one at the start is 110% origional and i would never say that unless i was absolutely sure of it and i am never wrong on these

[milsurp]

Sorry I can't provide you with the photoshop images I wanted to, my friend has mislayed the reproduction grenade when he moved house...

Given the photos at hand the stamps do look different, but... I will have to sit on the fence on this one. I have never seen this mark on any genuine stick grenade before and that makes me nervous. Sorry I can't be more positive.