Cloth insignia help

[Bob Chatt]

Recently got in a large box of insignia and these were the only ones I couldn't get positive identifications on.

The two anchor patches with the ship steering wheels on them are about three inches tall. One is almost on WWI wool background.

I think the swordfish patch is some sort of demolitions. The rate below I can find but none with the three rings around it.

The two on the left are about an inch and three quarter are made of some type of embossed cardboard or leatherette.

Any help would be great.

Thanks,

Bob

[101combatvet]

Post close ups front and back.

[Norm F]

Hi Bob,

The swordfish patch is a fake Kampfabzeichen der Kleinkampfverbände, level 4. There are several threads on these including these two:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...94#post5040894
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...05#post6191405

The other various uniform insignia look somewhat dubious and perhaps better photos will help. I’ll move the thread to the KM uniform forum for more input.

Best regards,
—Norm

[Bob Chatt]

Thanks for moving the thread to the proper section.

Here is a scan of the back sides.

All came with some great US insignia, so can't complain if some are bad.

Thanks again.

[101combatvet]

All bad in my opinion. The gear might have a chance, looks crude. I hope someone else will say otherwise.

[Norm F]

BTW, the two patches on the right are not Kriegsmarine, they're Heer Ärmelabzeichen Pioniersteuermann -- patches for the helmsmen of the pioneer units.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=397272

You could post them in the Heer uniform section for further comment.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Fred Green]

Hello,

The 2 steuerman patches do not look good in my opinion.

Fred

[jmcm]

All bad in my opinion. The gear might have a chance, looks crude. I hope someone else will say otherwise.

I agree!

[Bob Chatt]

Thanks again for the info.

Like I said the US insignia was great so I can live with these being bad.

Any idea on what the embossed smaller ones are or what they were used for?

Thanks again.

[101combatvet]

If real I was thinking early post war period, however, it is just a guess. I have never seen anything like them.

Thanks again for the info.

Like I said the US insignia was great so I can live with these being bad.

Any idea on what the embossed smaller ones are or what they were used for?

Thanks again.