U-Boat engineer's obermaat's tropical service blouse

[NOR_collector]

Hi.

I need your opinions on this U-Boat engineer's obermaat's tropical service blouse please. I'm sorry, but I don't have any more pictures at the moment.

Here is the description of the blouse:
Tropical green French cut machinists mates 2nd class u boat tunic that is named to a man "Wohlleben" who was on U-13, U-14 and U-48 (the number one u boat to this day). It's in perfect shape and has everything minus the awards. Wohlleben earned sub badge, minesweeper badge, and Krim shield (that was never sewn on this tunic) but all loops and stamps are there. All insignia, straps, eagle, ribbon and tress are original to the tunic. Excellent maker and size marking. Original removable buttons.

Thanks.

Best regards,
André

[NOR_collector]

Last pic.

[km-spain]

André, some points for your consideration.

- this is the green jacket of the blue uniform, same style than the white one, and not a tropical uniform.
- never seen one of these with NCO tress in the collar.
- the tress style remember me to a post-war one that I have.
- buttons should be gold and the eagle metalic.

[compressore]

It is on the collector guild website.

I saw it a couple of days before but I did not get a good feeling with it.
Regards
Christian

[NickG]

If he was in U-boat service I can see this NCO deviating from standard KM practice...
Using such a "brown uniform" (but in green) in Uboat service could explain the collar tresse application
(as often added to their Uboat Battle dress type uniforms, which were BEF captured or copied)
and a much more pratical cloth eagle... A standard metal breast eagle could snag easily on things in tight surroundings.
The button choice also doesn't worry me if the uniform was intended for use in a non office environment...(a sub) !
All I am saying is never say never! and if he is a documented submariner it makes the case stronger for me!
(provided of course the tresse is considered period)

[km-spain]

Agree Nick, but this one was never used on a U-boot, it's alsmot in mint condition, with brand new buttons and tress

[km-spain]

About the tress I have just checked when back home and is not the same post-war that I have, so is a good one IMO

[NickG]

Agree Nick, but this one was never used on a U-boot, it's alsmot in mint condition, with brand new buttons and tress

Condition is not an automatic red flag...just not worn because he had other sets, or he just did not survive,(did not come back from a mission)
so the uniform remained unused (in a closet)... Who knows? At least the tresse checks out to be OK...
Non text book is not automatically a red flag...sometimes you have to have an open mind about these things, but provenance is everything
and if this Obermaat was in the Uboat service I would say it has a good chance!
but agreed it also could have been an unissued minty depot queen...So never issued and everything was added including the name...Who knows?

[compressore]

Based on the German navy archive, Wohlleben served on the mentioned U-Boats.
Is it possible to get close-up pics of the tressesn as well as of the name tag ?
Regards
Christian

[NOR_collector]

I have asked Peter for better pictures.

Regards,
André

[NOR_collector]

I got a few pics from Peter.

[NOR_collector]

more pics

[NOR_collector]

last pic

[grifflvc]

Anymore thoughts on this one. Looks to be very nice but a bit to minty. Did you end uo buying this one?