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    KM Visor

    This Jr. Officer's hat is currently being auctioned. I don't like it for 3 reasons: 1) chinstrap wrong, a type that can be new purchased, 2) bullion on visor away from edge and rope too thick; and 3) cockade and wreath looks like it may have black thread instead of bullion in the cockade, a la Janke. But maybe I'm wrong. I'd like to hear others opinions.
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    KM Visor

    These shots show the chinstrap, bullion and wreath & cockade.
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      #3
      Off hand, it looks promising. There appears to be a tradition badge on the side. Could you photograph that please?

      Regards,
      JustinG

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        #4
        I am not at all sure (although it is regarded as "gospel") that the spacing between the edge of the visor and the visor embroidery is a "for sure" indicator of originality or non-originality. (By the way, I am quite certain that the use of black thread, as opposed to black bullion, is NOT definitive, and that the texture of the underside of the visor is also a potential "red herring" in the evaluation of a KM visor, although that particular criteria is still "up in the air").
        Last edited by Leroy; 10-01-2012, 07:34 PM.

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          #5
          I can´t say that anything speaks against it.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Leroy View Post
            I am not at all sure (although it is regarded as "gospel") that the spacing between the edge of the visor and the visor embroidery is a "for sure" indicator of originality or non-originality.
            Indeed i agree with Leroy

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              #7
              From pictures, I can not see any big red flag. Visor doesn't look bad, and I agree with other than spacing between the edge of the visor and the visor embroidery is not wrong with this one. Chinstrap look period, not typical but typical lacquered finish. Lining is also not the typical, so could be this one a foreign made piece?
              Last edited by John R.; 10-03-2012, 12:22 PM.
              Collector of Kriegsmarine and Küstenartillerie items

              Regards
              Eduardo

              Collecting Kriegsmarine !!!: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=725610

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                #8
                Hi

                IMO the chinstrap is a french one.
                This cap could be a french made one for the KM.

                Regards
                Ben

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                  #9
                  I was just alerted to this thread. The cap is mine, and the auction is mine (I will always claim credit for items offered, whether good or bad). Anyway, is the "french connection" worth pursuing? I want to be 100% accurate in my description, and any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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                    #10
                    Cap



                    I would like to have pics from the chinstrap buttons.
                    Where is the auction?

                    Regards
                    ben

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by km-spain View Post
                      and I agree with other than spacing between the edge of the visor and the visor embroidery is wrong with this one.
                      To not misunderstand, I wanted to say the spacing ... is NOT wrong ...

                      Sorry, my mistake writting.
                      Collector of Kriegsmarine and Küstenartillerie items

                      Regards
                      Eduardo

                      Collecting Kriegsmarine !!!: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=725610

                      sigpic "Deutsche Kriegsmarine"

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by gingerbread View Post

                        Where is the auction?
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                        Originally posted by craig gottlieb View Post
                        The cap is mine, and the auction is mine

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by km-spain View Post
                          To not misunderstand, I wanted to say the spacing ... is NOT wrong ...

                          Sorry, my mistake writting.
                          I corrected it. John

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by gingerbread View Post


                            I would like to have pics from the chinstrap buttons.
                            Where is the auction?

                            Regards
                            ben
                            The cap being discussed is at the top:

                            http://www.cgmauctions.com/catalog.a...370&n=Headgear

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                              #15
                              If you need more photos for analysis, please ask, and I will be happy to provide them.

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