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    #16
    Originally posted by amiklic1 View Post
    The "hard wear" is just on the number, it seems.

    Could it jut be due to lighter stamping of serial in comparison with the eagle and "M" letter?
    Could well be,you see plenty of stamps on all types of German Equipment were this happens.
    First thing i did was take it to a watch specialist who I'd the guts of it as IWC and read out the serial numbers to the case and movement which i copied down and checked these against the Konrad Krimm site...no problems..BTW it took him some time to open it up using specialist tools and he said that it had not been apart in a very long time.
    Bob

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      #17
      Some better pics i hope
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        #18
        the back
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          #19
          Indeed a fake eagle

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            #20
            Indeed a fake eagle

            Oh god i love this forum thats a statement you make are you gonna back it up? maybe you made it prey tell.

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              #21
              Ok then its up to you to prove thats a good eagle, sorry to say but i dont think this one has a good chance

              Best

              Andy

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                #22
                Iasked for help and posted my pics on a military watch forum and the leading authority replied this is what he posted


                Hallo friends and RKS-01,
                I cannot find anything wrong with this eagle, all seems authentic as seen by photos only!
                . Gruesse/Regards/Salute Konrad Knirim
                PS: Have a look at my books on Military Timepieces:
                . http://www.knirim.de

                See here my watches:
                Last edited by bob sellers; 04-14-2012, 03:06 AM.

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                  #23
                  Hallo friends and RKS-01,
                  I cannot find anything wrong with this eagle, all seems authentic as seen by photos only!
                  . Gruesse/Regards/Salute Konrad Knirim
                  PS: Have a look at my books on Military Timepieces:
                  . http://www.knirim.de

                  See here my watches:
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by AndyC View Post
                    Hi

                    Those eagles that i have seen in the last 30 years looks more like this.
                    I have more pictures and i should find them

                    Best

                    Andy
                    Andy this is a typical Junghans eagle not one that you would see on a IWC watch,
                    Kind regards Christian

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by 48RMC View Post
                      Andy this is a typical Junghans eagle not one that you would see on a IWC watch,
                      Kind regards Christian

                      Ok

                      Andy

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                        #26
                        Here is some further information in a post to me from Herr Knirim about the IWC i have forsale

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                        - I do not like prices especially in a forum and for rare items! These depend on the interests. For me there are two different prices, one when I want to buy and one when I want to sell, and thats the range of ****** and *******. And then there are the prices crazy or lucky buyers and sellers except and that is unpredictable....
                        Remarks to the marking:
                        - The eagle was stamped by the manufacturer IWC in Schaffhausen 1943, the M-number was engraved in the Deutsche Seewarte Hamburg after the accuracy tests. So these types of markings are different!
                        - The M-numbers were unique since pre-WWI, unless an item was lost or destroyed, then the number was reissued, so there are but rare double numbers.
                        Greetings Konrad
                        konrad.knirim@t-online.de

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                          #27
                          the watch has a new home now

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                            #28
                            Congratulations.

                            It's a beauty, and maybe it's just us who are blowing on a cold things because of too many fakes out there.

                            I really hope it was original, and that the new owner will be happy with it.

                            Being authentic or not is beyond my specialty, but I must say that IWC clock alone is worth a lot.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by amiklic1 View Post
                              Congratulations.

                              It's a beauty, and maybe it's just us who are blowing on a cold things because of too many fakes out there.

                              I really hope it was original, and that the new owner will be happy with it.

                              Being authentic or not is beyond my specialty, but I must say that IWC clock alone is worth a lot.
                              Thankyou for your nice comment,it went to a German military time piece specialist in Europe,once he saw pictures inside of the movement he wanted it.
                              In a way i'm sad to see it go but it will enable me to buy the things i want,can't beat a bit of retail therapy

                              do you want to see pictures of the movement?,i can post them if of interest.
                              Bob

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                                #30
                                Bob, the watch was correct in all respects as I have overhauled a few of these over the years. The real problem is with those who post that don't know what to look for and won't spend a substantial amount on a superb book by Konrad Knirim on German timepieces......A fantastic colorful fact filled reference that's at least two inches thick and around $250 . This is a much needed reference if you're a German military timepiece collector !

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