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    45 Helmet Liner - Opinions

    What do you guys think? What's it worth? I know nothing about helmets and liners. If anyone is interested it is for sale/trade (field gear)

    Inside of liner


    Top of liner


    Making inside 1


    Marking 2


    Ring


    Detail of the material


    Side view


    Another view

    #2

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      #3
      never seen a liner like that, but I personaly think it looks good
      Regards Lassi

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        #4
        Is that writing in Hungarian or Romanian?

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          #5
          Hi Dave,

          I've typed 'zkouseno' in at Google and got linked to mainly Czech sites.

          Marcel

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            #6
            Nobody knows for sure? I'm so used to having you guys reply right away with all the correct info!

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              #7
              Bump...I still can't find any info on this thing

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                #8
                Did you have more pics of it?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by 1940jfm
                  Did you have more pics of it?
                  Yes please more images?

                  Cheers
                  Martin

                  www.hannahsreich.co.uk

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                    #10
                    Thanks guys..I just took more random shots from different angles..any ideas yet?

                    Inside
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                    Close up of the material/seam


                    Close up of the rivets on ths side


                    Another shot of the underside


                    Just a shot of the metal side

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                      #11
                      That stamp in german and czec appears to be a Q.C. acceptance stamp w/ control number. These words mean something like "certified" or "examined". The control number (447) would have been assigned to a specific QC inspector.
                      RAD is probably the maker's mark. Of course GR (grosse) means "size" in german.

                      This appears to be a civic liner produced in occupied czec.
                      Last edited by Brian Ice; 12-13-2005, 06:39 PM.

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                        #12
                        I have seen some weird liners inside Luftschutz helmets before, and would assume that this one had a similar use.

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                          #13
                          The pattern of the material for the liner looks alot like the liner material commonly used in Russian helmets, it's just not blackened. The material used in Russian liners was supposedly upholstery material.

                          Marc

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                            #14
                            As far as germany was concerned, wouldn't this material be termed "ersatz cloth" or similar? kind of like a synthetic leather used for helmet liners, ammo pouches and the like?

                            Bakelite also comes to mind as a pressed substance that substituted for wood, such as it was used for bayonet handles and so on.

                            Weren't synthetic substitutes somewhat common in 2nd war germany, such as ersatz coffee, synthetic oil-rubber, and the like?

                            I believe the word "ersatz" in german means "replacement".

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