Italian dagger questions

[Johnnie]

OK gents, I'm on a roll with our new forum, so here are my Italian dagger questions for those knowledgable.

1. Did each service have it's own style of dagger for officers the same way the Germans did? (Army, Navy, Air Force, MSVN)

2. Did Italian NCOs have a dagger for dress, or did they use a dress bayonet?

3. Were fighting knives issue items or private purchase?

4. Did the Italian navy have a specific diver's knife, and how rare are they?

5. Did Italian paras have a special issue knife in the order of the German gravity knife.

6. Were Italian daggers all made in Italy, or were numbers of them contract made in Germany?

OK, I know, lots of questions! Thanks in advance for answers!

Cheers to all,
Johnnie

[Raffaello Carola]

Hello Johnny.

Thanks for your support in this project.

1. Did each service have it's own style of dagger for officers the same way the Germans did?
(Army, Navy, Air Force, MSVN)

Yes, exist many different daggers- knife (parade and combat)

2. Did Italian NCOs have a dagger for dress, or did they use a dress bayonet?

Yes created in the 1939 only for the Blackshirts N.C.O. parade
dagger model 39 others N.C.O. using the combat dagger model 1938
or bayonet.

3. Were fighting knives issue items or private purchase?

genererally the official fighiting knives sometimes personalizated

4. Did the Italian navy have a specific diver's knife, and how rare are they?

Yes the San Marco unit (marine assault corps) (Lion-head officier)
and troops (different) are too are and the model for diver's knife
(very rare) with scabbard in brass the name of diver's in italian
is PALOMBARO.


5. Did Italian paras have a special issue knife in the order of the German gravity knife.

No never


6. Were Italian daggers all made in Italy, or were numbers of them contract made in Germany?

Yes all in Italy don't exist notice of german production

I will create in the next step an photos database of the italian fighiting
knife and parade daggers.
all the best
Raffaello

[Johnnie]

Raffaello,

Thank you for your answers! I look forward to photos of your collection!
I think this is going to be an interesting forum.

regards,
Johnnie

Hello Johnny.

Thanks for your support in this project.

1. Did each service have it's own style of dagger for officers the same way the Germans did?
(Army, Navy, Air Force, MSVN)

Yes, exist many different daggers- knife (parade and combat)

2. Did Italian NCOs have a dagger for dress, or did they use a dress bayonet?

Yes created in the 1939 only for the Blackshirts N.C.O. parade
dagger model 39 others N.C.O. using the combat dagger model 1938
or bayonet.

3. Were fighting knives issue items or private purchase?

genererally the official fighiting knives sometimes personalizated

4. Did the Italian navy have a specific diver's knife, and how rare are they?

Yes the San Marco unit (marine assault corps) (Lion-head officier)
and troops (different) are too are and the model for diver's knife
(very rare) with scabbard in brass the name of diver's in italian
is PALOMBARO.


5. Did Italian paras have a special issue knife in the order of the German gravity knife.

No never


6. Were Italian daggers all made in Italy, or were numbers of them contract made in Germany?

Yes all in Italy don't exist notice of german production

I will create in the next step an photos database of the italian fighiting
knife and parade daggers.
all the best
Raffaello

[james m]

Item 6 above:
I have seen the controversial Italian Youth Knives with the German firm of Horster stamped on them. I believe I have also seen some German marked Italian swords.
Jim

[Raffaello Carola]

Item 6 above:
I have seen the controversial Italian Youth Knives with the German firm of Horster stamped on them. I believe I have also seen some German marked Italian swords.
Jim

Hello Jim,

very intersting please send me an photo of this youth knive
at the moment don't exist notice of this production.
rgds
Raffaello

[james m]

http://cgi.ebay.com/WWII-ITALIAN-YOU...QQcmdZViewItem
Here you are since one happens to be convientely for sale on Ebay.
Jim