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    Grenadier - Infantry Waffenfabrik

    Initially Infantry Regiments had white waffenfabrik on their boards and collar tabs, but when they were renamed Grenadier Regiments, did they continue to use the white color?
    Did it ever officially get changed to a different color?
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    The designation or change of name from Infanterie to Grenadier, Füsilier, Schützen etc. did not change the color of the branch service waffenfabrik.

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      #3
      Colors

      Thanks for the reply, but I recently found this table, which may indicate a different opinion....
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        Originally posted by collector5168 View Post
        Thanks for the reply, but I recently found this table, which may indicate a different opinion....
        I misread your post my bad. Are you referring to the dates next to the options for Infantry?
        Last edited by ItsWillCmp; 03-31-2019, 12:50 PM.

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          I'll stick my neck out a little on this one and say Yes, when a regiment received upgraded transportation and was designated a panzergrenadier regiment their waffenfarbe (branch of service color) changed. I'm sure there were exceptions, but in general I believe this to be the case.

          Alen

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            Info

            Thanks for the responses and helpful information.

            Does anyone know if there is a reference that lists those infantry regiments that were upgraded with vehicles, or if it’s easier which regiments were still classed as infantry at the end of 1944...?

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              Specifics

              In short, were Grenadier Regiments 272 and 270 still basic infantry during 1944, or had they received the vehicle upgrade and hence would have changed the coloring if their waffenfabrik?

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                Originally posted by collector5168 View Post
                In short, were Grenadier Regiments 272 and 270 still basic infantry during 1944, or had they received the vehicle upgrade and hence would have changed the coloring if their waffenfabrik?
                The changing of the designation, if it is only grenadier or volksgrenadier does not correlate with a change in the color of waffenfabrik. It would still be white. For instance the 12. Infanterie Division was renamed the 12. Volksgrenadier Division. Despite this name change, it was still an Infanterie division is short. However these units were not set up exactly the same as a regular Infanterie division. For instance, on lexikon der Wehrmacht it states that these units were slightly smaller than their Infanterie counterparts and were more focused on automatic weapons.

                Here is the makeup for an either Grenadier or Volksgrenadier division courtesy of Lexikon der Wehrmacht:

                Divisionsstab mit
                -Kartenstelle/Druckereitrupp
                -Feldgendarmerietrupp (meist als Feldgendarmerietrupp c (teilmot.)
                3 Grenadierregimenter zu je
                -Regimentsstab/Stabskompanie mit Nachrichten-, Pionier- und Radfahrzug.
                -2 Bataillone mit je 3 Schützen-Kp (9 le. MG, 2 Züge mit Sturmgewehren), 1 schwere Kp (8 sMG, 6 mGrW, 4 leichte Inf.Gesch.)
                -Infanteriegeschütz-Kompanie mit 4 leichten Infanteriegeschützen und 8 schw. Granatwerfern.
                -Panzerzerstörer-Kompanie mit 72 Ofenrohr, davon 18 als Gerätereserve ohne Bedienungspersonal
                Divisionsfüsilierkompanie (wie Grenadier-Kp, allerdings auf Fahrrädern beweglich gemacht).
                Panzerjägerabteilung mit
                -1. Kp zu 9 Pak 7,5 cm (mot.Z.)
                -2. Kp mit 14 Sturmgeschützen. Diese Kp führte ab Oktober 1944 die Bezeichnung Panzerjäger-Kp, ab Februar 1945 als Jagdpanzer-Kp 1007. Die Ausrüstung mit Sturmgeschützen war nicht einheitlich, teilweise kamen auch andere Pak auf Sfl. zum Einsatz.
                -3. Kp mit 9 Flak 3,7 cm (mot.Z.)
                Die Ausrüstung der gesamten Panzerjägerabteilung richtete sich nach dem verfügbaren Material und war extrem uneinheitlich.
                Artillerieregiment mit
                -Stabsbatterie
                -1 leichte Abteilung mit Stabsbatterie und 3 Batterien zu je 6 Feldkanonen oder Pak 7,5 cm (teilmot.)
                -2 leichte Abteilung (10,5 cm leFH) mit Stabsbatterie und 2 Batterien zu je 6 Geschützen (teilmot).
                -1 schwere Abteilung (15 cm sFH) mit Stabsbatterie und 2 Batterien zu je 6 Geschützen (bespannt)
                Pionierbataillon mit 2 Kompanien (teilmot.)
                Nachrichtenabteilung (gekürzt) mit
                -Fernsprechkompanie (teilmot.)
                -Funkkompanie (mot.)
                -Versorgungsstaffel
                Feldersatzbataillon (4-5 Kompanien, dazu Divisionskampfschule)
                1 Sanitätskompanie (teilmot)
                1 Krankenkraftwagenkompanie.
                Kommandeur der Div. Nachschubtruppen (Kodina, wird Ende 1944 Divisions-Versorgungs-Regiment) mit
                -Divisionsverwaltungs-Kp (teilmot.), darin Bäckerei- und Schlächtereizug
                -1 Kraftfahrkompanie (120 t Kapazität, dabei Betriebsstoff-fahrzeuge)
                -2 Fahrschwadronen (bespannt, 30 t Kapazität)
                -1 Nachschubkompanie (teilmot.)
                -1 Werkstattkompanie (teilmot.)
                Veterinärkompanie (bespannt)
                Feldpostamt (teilmot.)

                Hope this helps clear up some confusion

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