Luft Trousers

[Patrick Dempsey]

The clearest shot i managed...

[Patrick Dempsey]

And to close, the reinforcement strip from the interior of the leg.

[SprogCollector]

Clarification of terms

Good day, everyone:
First, my thanks to those who posted pics on this thread. It's answered, in photos, many of my questions regarding LW trousers.

I'm still unclear on the designation of the two trouser styles. It's probably just me. I have the two Davis LW books but not the Angolia books.

In Davis, Vol 1, pg 211 (I have the softcover edition), Davis mentions "Langehose" being worn by all personnel. He then follows up by mentioning riding breeches (Stiefelhose) for officers (along with others authorized to purchase their own kit) and then "Fliegerhose" for NCO and other ranks.

Based on this, are the following terms correctly matched to the trousers?:

Langehose -- the straight-legged trousers shown in the photos on this thread -- i.e. those trousers with, literally, straight cut legs and the "V" in the back with center-rear adjustment strap?

Fliegerhose -- the style which prompted this thread -- i.e. trousers with the side adjustment straps and split cuffs (Keilhose)?

Reithose/Stiefelhose -- riding breeches -- self explanatory

[FHH]

What is the correct name for the blue-gray pants made in basic "keilhose/fliegerhose" cut but with the flapped front pockets???

John

[monte cassino]

another example

Hi Willy,

I bought a pair yesterday which looks exactly like your pair of trousers.

kr Ruben

[monte cassino]

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[monte cassino]

last picture

I would like to see some more examples of LW trousers. The M43 trousers with the pocket flaps for example.

[OSS]

It is my opinion that both these and the trousers submitted by Willi Zahn are not in fact Luftwaffe Keilhose but rather the trousers of the Luftwaffe HJ Flakhelfer service uniform. The beltloops were intended for the standard belt and buckle (HJ or Luftwaffe) as the pullover tunic for this uniform was worn tucked into the trousers like a shirt. The Luftwaffe did indeed produce Keilhose though they were identical to the Heer pattern.

[Mike Davis]

I concur. Thanks OSS, looking forward to further posts from you.

[Glenn McInnes]

Thanks OSS, looking forward to further posts from you.

Yes,me too...Welcome to the Forum OSS.






Glenn

[John Huff]

The front pockets are different than standard HJ Flak trousers...

[monte cassino]

The front pockets are different than standard HJ Flak trousers...

That is what I thought also.
Has somebody got a pair of textbook HJ trousers to show?

I always tended to think that this model was a model between the straight trousers and the model with the pocket flaps?!

[Mike Davis]

Usually one would expect front pocket flaps for HJ. Maybe an interim type?

[B. N. Singer]

Usually one would expect front pocket flaps for HJ...

That’s what I thought sir, as I have seen them assumed (incorrectly) to be HG Pz.

B. N. Singer

[OSS]

I agree with you sir, the ones I believe you are referring to (in the Angolia/Schlicht section on HG uniform) are actually for the female Luftwaffe Scheinwerfer auxilleries in that the fly is buttoned on the side.