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    #16
    Markings are typical for ww2 era produced teli mimetici.
    To me genuine ww2 material was used for these jackets!

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      #17
      Food for thoughts

      http://www.dererstezug.com/italiancamo.htm

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        #18
        camo wrap

        Hard to see the wear with my lousy camera but definately there. This was picked up in the Normandy area.
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              #21
              Italian camouflage was comparatively common among W-SS troops (in different styles) of the 1st SS Corps (1st LAH and 12th HJ Panzer Divisions) in Normandy - but (I think) virtually unheard of in Heer units in the same AO.

              This being said, you might find a Heer wrapper, in Italian camouflage, more easily in the 16th or 26th Panzer Divisions which served in Italy.

              Mike

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                  #23
                  I do know that much about German wraps, never had any, but I used to own few Italian M29 camo Zelthbahns and Italian shelter halfs. Some of them were finished with cloth printed in pattern showed here ("CROMO AMERICA CANADA"). What is more I do own genuine Italian tropical cloak, please note some details:- first shape of the collar, usually pointed egdes are more round than in German mode.maybeitalian 007.jpgfrom Paolo.jpg
                  Last edited by Grubhy; 09-22-2013, 12:33 PM.

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                    #24
                    Secodnly, way of sewing sleeves to the rest:
                    maybeitalian 003.jpg
                    And at last crude finish (My cloak has been private tailored in Italy for unknown officer, it is not factory made.):
                    maybeitalian 012.jpg

                    IMHO it has been made from 100% good M29 camo cloth with few details typical for Italian craftmanship from WW2 period.

                    Hard to judge that discussed wrap has been cut by talented crook or in 1943/1944 based on pictures enclosed. I must add that looks very close to example from Bayeux museum...
                    Last edited by Grubhy; 09-22-2013, 12:38 PM.

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                      #25
                      Same pattern of Italian officers tropical cloak converted by Germans:U-121.jpgU-121e.jpg

                      (Pictures taken from Bill Shea web site from educational reasons (I always learn), hope that Bill will not mind)

                      http://www.therupturedduck.com/WebPa...forms/u121.htm

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by novedvory View Post
                        Another wiew of this officer (from ECPA)



                        I'm sure you will appreciate some details.
                        derka

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                          #27
                          Italian Camo Wrap

                          Some great pics. Does anyone else have any pics of Heer Italian camo wraps. I'd love to see them. Thank,s Mark.

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                            #28
                            I personally would never buy anything like this unless it came from a Vet. They were still selling rolls of WWII Italian camo fabric at shows in Europe in the 1980s. I just would not trust "field made" items unless they have a history and were brought back.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by novedvory View Post
                              super photo ,do you know where it was taken?

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Grubhy View Post
                                {...}I must add that looks very close to example from Bayeux museum...
                                Promised scann, unfortunately the book has been printed in large A3 size and it quite hard to take copy properly... Still quite well visible Italian mode of collar and cuffs construction:

                                book1.jpg

                                Proportions:

                                book2.jpg
                                Last edited by Grubhy; 10-10-2013, 04:05 PM.

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