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    #46
    The breast eagle appears to be a factory application in my opinion.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Mike Davis View Post
      The breast eagle appears to be a factory application in my opinion.
      It was explained to me some time ago that the eagle was machine sewn across the top of the eagle when the eagle was upside down on the jacket, then folded down and hand sewn the rest of the way. It may not have been done this way in every Wehrmacht 'assembly line', but it was in some.

      Robert

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        #48
        Originally posted by Robert P. View Post
        It was explained to me some time ago that the eagle was machine sewn across the top of the eagle when the eagle was upside down on the jacket, then folded down and hand sewn the rest of the way. It may not have been done this way in every Wehrmacht 'assembly line', but it was in some.

        Robert


        From what I have seen and know of, eagle's were for the most part machine sewn completely around from the factory on later HBT jackets but there are always exceptions to the rule (like completely hand sewn eagle's on later uniforms)






        Glenn
        "A Man's Got to Know His Limitations"

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          #49
          Thank you Glenn,

          And I was referring only to bevo eagles. In this particular instance the thread used to sew the eagle in place matches the thread used on the collar tabs, and jacket assembly as well.

          Robert

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            #50
            Originally posted by Robert P. View Post

            In this particular instance the thread used to sew the eagle in place matches the thread used on the collar tabs, and jacket assembly as well.

            Robert




            That is a good sign,looks like original sewing to me as well.






            Glenn
            "A Man's Got to Know His Limitations"

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              #51
              I suspect that method of application was fairly common on earlier pieces. Here is another.
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                #52
                Thank you guys,

                This puts to rest the eagle application.

                The eagle on my jacket has the same wear as the jacket itself...

                Robert
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                  #53
                  Inside, again...

                  Robert
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Glenn McInnes View Post
                    From what I have seen and know of, eagle's were for the most part machine sewn completely around from the factory on later HBT jackets but there are always exceptions to the rule (like completely hand sewn eagle's on later uniforms)

                    Glenn
                    This is what I am used to seeing as well. If the thread is the same as the tabs it is a good sign but I still prefer to see straight machine stitching all the way around than the preWar style application for wool tunics.

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                      #55
                      I personally would rather see an eagle partially hand-sewn to a jacket with the same thread that was used to construct the jacket than I would to see an eagle totally machine-sewn to the jacket with a different thread that was used to construct the jacket. I hope that made sense.

                      Robert

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                        #56
                        I like the eagle application as well. Seen and owned both methods of applied eagles, machine stitched with the top portion folded /un-folded.

                        That's what's now nice about this tunic after the loops and ribbons were removed, al insignia is credibly era applied.



                        -Ray-

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Mike Davis View Post
                          I suspect that method of application was fairly common on earlier pieces. Here is another.


                          Mike,


                          Have you ever seen this method of application on a later M42 or 43 jacket,wool or HBT? (other than the M42 HBT posted by Robert)








                          Glenn
                          "A Man's Got to Know His Limitations"

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Glenn McInnes View Post
                            Mike,

                            Have you ever seen this method of application on a later M42 or 43 jacket,wool or HBT? (other than the M42 HBT posted by Robert)

                            Glenn
                            I had thought that the zip & flip application was more common in '41 - '42 and that the straight machine or zigzag was more from '43 & later but can see thats not always the case. Thanks for the correction

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Glenn McInnes View Post
                              Mike,


                              Have you ever seen this method of application on a later M42 or 43 jacket,wool or HBT? (other than the M42 HBT posted by Robert)



                              Glenn

                              Yes indeed, have a couple upstairs I think. Had at least one '44 made M43 with same kind of application.

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                                #60
                                so sewn in the war - 100 percent of the original

                                http://www.antik-war.lv/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=375946
                                so sewn in the war - 100 percent of the original
                                http://www.antik-war.lv/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=375946

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