greatcoat/mantel opinions

[-Ray-]

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Fabric material similar to some WWI era tunics.

Marked "215"

[CWP]

Materials and construction are not typical German, I suspect some foreign origin, very likely reworked Austrian coats as suggested.

[-Ray-]

Materials and construction are not typical German, I suspect some foreign origin, very likely reworked Austrian coats as suggested.

Maybe Dutch? That zigzag stitch pattern under the collar surely resembles the interior chest panels of these foreign tunics.


-Ray-

[CWP]

I had wondered the same thing but with two examples apparently dated 1939 (if the markings are original) it would have to be something else.

[-Ray-]

"Aha",,, found an old thread based on these;

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=163041 This one was dyed for post war use.

No intent to beat a dead horse but these constructive out of the box threads are the homage of the WAF discussion forum.

Another example with the dtd 1939. If markings original maybe a foreign incorporation or domestic retrograde into the upgraded depot classification system.

-Ray-

[Johnny R]

I have a Dutch factory rework and will look at the stamps, I think it has Dutch stamps and reissue depot/size stamps. It is more blue though. I think this may be Austrian as was noted and reworked with some post War modifications and buttons etc.

[-Ray-]

Here's the one currently on E-stand also dtd. 1939. for reference. I hope the seller "Zimzum77" doesn't mind additional publicity.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=663490

There is still another thread out there with another identical example, but without the elaborate markings as these. Will keep searching. This makes three coats dtd. 1939 w/ German logos.

-Ray-

[Johnny R]

The lining material is the oatmeal HBT Drillich fabric. You see this used sometimes in coats.

[scarey]

Thanks for all the replies. I'm glad there is such a wealth of knowledge and desire to know more as I know little about uniforms

[Johnny R]

I do not think it is Austrian, the issue coats has slanted pockets like typical German coats, the Dutch overcoat does have reissue stamps etc. Not sure what it is, maybe a modified variation of one type of issue coat or something else reworked and redyed Czech etc.

[-Ray-]

Time to revive this thread and enigma here.

Courtesy of WAF Member "Fatherland44" I'm posting at his discretion another identical example of these elusive greatcoats he has in his collection.

I undoubtedly believe these were employed by the WH regardless foreign made or not. Too many consistencies with the markings etc. This should be the 4 or 5th known example here.

Comments encouraged please.


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[Johnny R]

Ask for a close up of that last stamp flat so we can read it and see the date/year. I have seen that large odd "A" stamp before but cannot remember where. Maybe a Dutch issue item. I will go look in zee bunker.