Uniforms I Wouldn't Buy

[kaiserwilhelm2]

Obviously a Rumanian/Hungarian depending on whether you consider Transylvania to be Rumanian/Hungarian.

[corporalSteiner]

...beware anyone offered an untouched early war tunic from Gauleiter Arthur Greiser's extensive and eccentric wardrobe...as shown here; you'll find even Greiser wore a 'clearly wrong' sleeve eagle on his ss uniform...so, pass on it if offered, as being 'clearly not right'. (photo credit as indicated on pic).

[DieterKessler]

I think somebody should do some background research on Christopher Lee ? Pic. 195

[Johnny R]

This thread is entertaining but also is a fount showing limitations of many collector's knowledge towards what was worn. 90% of tunics will be regulation in configuration. There is a danger of assuming that any variation is real but it is a personal choice to collect whatever you want.

I had a tiny War this morning over this eagle. It was not worn that way, done deal Cleopatra dead. Over. Enigmatic examples in photos only mean that there was (rare) variation, anyone who studies period photos knows this and it does not mean that all pieces of junk are period. That needs to be kept in mind. The thread is interesting but it is not a justification for all weird tunics etc. to be judged as real.

This thread was used as a member to suggest this eagle was worn this way. This is not a period application or wear. I had the fortune to talk to many German Vets and this is IMO nonsense.

[Johnny R]

It probably is a "pocket eagle" that was reapplied. No worries there but IMO it was never worn this way. Just fantastic really.

[kaiserwilhelm2]

Enigmatic examples in photos only mean that there was (rare) variation, anyone who studies period photos knows this and it does not mean that all pieces of junk are period. That needs to be kept in mind. The thread is interesting but it is not a justification for all weird tunics etc. to be judged as real.

True, but it does clearly show that if just go text book you are also unfairly limiting yourself and others if something authentic comes along which is just somewhat odd in its composition. If there are no red flags other than a peculiar eagle (which by its wear, method of attachment and 'fusion' into the tunic apparently is originally applied - i.e. not like the one in your pic) or boards or collar tabs one should not so easily dismiss it only because it is not text book.

[DennyB]

Why destroy original dot material by makeing some fantasy M40 cap

Isn't this Leon Degrelle?

[leibermuster]

This thread is entertaining but also is a fount showing limitations of many collector's knowledge towards what was worn. 90% of tunics will be regulation in configuration. There is a danger of assuming that any variation is real but it is a personal choice to collect whatever you want.

I had a tiny War this morning over this eagle. It was not worn that way, done deal Cleopatra dead. Over. Enigmatic examples in photos only mean that there was (rare) variation, anyone who studies period photos knows this and it does not mean that all pieces of junk are period. That needs to be kept in mind. The thread is interesting but it is not a justification for all weird tunics etc. to be judged as real.

This thread was used as a member to suggest this eagle was worn this way. This is not a period application or wear. I had the fortune to talk to many German Vets and this is IMO nonsense.

Maybe I missed something, but isn't that eagle just held in place by that pin? It is not sewn. so probably it is just there to illustrate the basic area where that replacement eagle will be sewn.

[OU812]

Maybe I missed something, but isn't that eagle just held in place by that pin?

It is.

[jh-ss44]

But ,this helps show what could have been done due to war supply issues ect.
and every one here knows if ANY of these items ,WITH OUT THE PERIOD PHOTOS; were posted here by the current owner , it would be ALL THUMBS DOWN !!

studio photos seem to be the ones you see the most not correct stuff. just got out of boot camp... & the photographer adds stuff to impress the folks / girlfriend at home.

[kaiserwilhelm2]

studio photos seem to be the ones you see the most not correct stuff. just got out of boot camp... & the photographer adds stuff to impress the folks /girlfriend at home.

If this were done it would surprise me completely. Photographers in Germany during the TR era adding decorations to a picture so soldiers could impress parents/girlfriends?????? This would have been completely illegal and punishable by law. Anyone found out would be disciplined and shamed. It is highly ungerman (certainly back then and I would think now as well) to dishonor the decoration and the just wearers of such a decoration by claiming to be awarded such an honor. Cases of soldiers being court martialed for wearing decorations on home leave they were not entitled to (mostly a EK2 or IAB) are well known. So yes that happened. Photographers adding decorations on a regular basis for studio photo's I would think not.

[Renaud]

If this were done it would surprise me completely. Photographers in Germany during the TR era adding decorations to a picture so soldiers could impress parents/girlfriends?????? This would have been completely illegal and punishable by law. Anyone found out would be disciplined and shamed. It is highly ungerman (certainly back then and I would think now as well) to dishonor the decoration and the just wearers of such a decoration by claiming to be awarded such an honor. Cases of soldiers being court martialed for wearing decorations on home leave they were not entitled to (mostly a EK2 or IAB) are well known. So yes that happened. Photographers adding decorations on a regular basis for studio photo's I would think not.

Maybe he didn't talk about decorations, but about things like metal insignias in place of cloth ones, as we have seen earlier in this thread and other irregular features ?

[keifer kahn]

He means insignia and uniform items as "new kid" has said.

He doesnt say anything about decorations.

[kaiserwilhelm2]

He means insignia and uniform items as "new kid" has said.

He doesnt say anything about decorations.

photographers changing insignia and other uniform items???

[Kengir]

photographers changing insignia and other uniform items???

I believe you should reference post #155 and its ensuing discussion. It's a good example and one that just stuck out to me. You even made a comment on it back when it was posted. Whether photographer or the photographed.. Someone spruced on his uniform to make the picture look cooler...

Happy Firday!
Jeremy