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    I owned this uniform tunic many many years( 25 ) ago, When I first acquired it the tunic was an unissued piece without any insignia. I traded it away and it came back in my possession decorated with some original SD insignia including NCO shoulder boards a SD Raute and blank cufftitle. It also had a fake bevo big foot SS Officer eagle attached. I have since stripped the tunic down except for the boards.
    Can any one help me identifying the tunic. Is it post war, other organization or just a early repro. It is a well made tunic . It has Assman buttons. It has a full lining of a solid grey artificial silk with white and black striped sleeve linings . It also has a bandage pocket. It has provisions for belt hooks with 4 hole ramp straps. The exterior only has one hole for the hook. The wool is of decent quality. Upper pleated pockets quite high on the chest. Lower slash hidden pockets. The green collar is soft and floppy with zig zig reenforcing patter. It never had collar hooks. I am posting about 10 photos. The pictures were taken indoors with a flash and give it an odd look on some of the pics. In some of the photos it has a blue green tint, but is not. It has no markings or tags. I think it had a paper tag sewn on at one time with numbers , but I don't really recall for sure. It also has one inside breast pocket lined in white.

    I am hoping Nick G will comments on this tunic . I know he has a good eye for this stuff and is a student of tunics
    through period photography. Nick I think you enjoy oddball items.
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    Last edited by Dennis S; 09-29-2008, 10:16 PM.

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    Back of tunic
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      collar area and wool. Uniform wool closer to the actual actual color
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      Last edited by Dennis S; 09-29-2008, 10:25 PM.

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        back of collar
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          Tunic lining inside out
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            Back of tunic lining
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              close up bandage pocket with glass button.
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                Belt ramp with 4 holes pinned against the sleeve ling
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                  close up of exterior belt hook hole.
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                    close up of pocket area and inside pocket flap
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                      ASSMAN Button logo.
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                        I am not sure I posted this in the correct section.

                        THANKS TO ALL IN ADVANCE

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                          IMO it is post War BRD Customs, Zoll or Police. I do not think it dates to the War.

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                            I am also leaning towards early post war... but its a tuff one... The fact that its kind of cut like a (Reichswehr) officer uniform,
                            with pointed collars BUT still has belt support straps, non hollow buttons and (pressed) open
                            collar (no collar hooks?sign of any there at one time?) are all indicators to me
                            that it might be some kind of late 40-early 50 beamte officials uniform.

                            If it was a war time or prewar officer garment, it would have had French cuffs and no belt support straps...
                            and I doubt that it is a tailor made NCO uniform of some kind...any signs of removed tags? tailor labels?
                            Something deliberately removed to hide its true vintage/source? Is there a split in the tail, not clear to me...short one?

                            Like John stated, it could very well be early West German customs, border guards , prison official/police or forestry tunic...
                            something along those lines! A beambte...

                            I'm not convinced its war time.... but I would not bet money that it is or isn't...
                            Like I said tuff one, but I am also definitely also leaning towards early post war...
                            Its definately not a reproduction of something!
                            Its real but is it real pre 1945? Hopefully others will chime in to provide input!! Fellow WAF member Diane
                            is really knowledgeable, including with the early post war stuff!
                            Nick
                            Last edited by NickG; 09-30-2008, 12:42 AM.

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                              Nick, Very short split tail. Probably about 4" . Thanks

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