Officers'Fliegerbluse Observer

[GD/LW]

Hi GD/LW,

To give credit where credit is due...the picture was posted by Andreas.

I am not doubting your quote regarding the regulation that aircrew had to wear cloth badge, I have just never heard of it before. Can you reference a book or German order?

Again, ref the pictures, even all of the late war pictures I have seen, almost all of the them show aircrew with metal badges. Additionally, as a collectible, one rarely finds bullion flight badges and one would think if this regulation were followed there would be more bullion badges around and cloth EK1s etc.

As an aside, my father was a air gunner in 43-44 with the USAAF and if he, or any crew members wore anything at all it was metal wings.

Gary B

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[Gary B]

Dear GD/LW,

OK I will await your return and I look forward to hearing about the regulation.

Nice picture. I agree that aircrew wore cloth badges in flight, just as Kriegsmarine and some Heer soldiers wore cloth badges due to the close proximity of their working environment, but one sees far fewer pictures of these cloth badges in wear then metal.

As for the USAAF, wings were normally made of sterling silver. There were cloth and bullion wings also avaialble for private purchase. As far as I know, my father never flew with any insignia. He has 6 pairs of silver wings, and one bullion, which he never wore. He typically wore an A-2 leather jacket which I believe was covered over with flight overalls.

Have a nice vacation.

Gary B

[Don D.]

Give me a few pics and I'll shut up forever.

When does this kick in?

[ottodak]

gd/lw this is a post u left me, u r on about jos and his replys, so can you 100% be sure that this comment you left me is right? or is this comment left by you just a load of pony???



Not OK. Definitely a made up one. I've studied pics of the GD and personally it's very rare to see those late war (1944 ) cufftitles. And when you see them they're always on the M43 tunic.
To me also the pleats look uneven. So, yes I agree with jhodgson, looks like an M42 that got that M36 look.
So, I'm sorry but it's definitely a GD made one.

[GD/LW]

Dear GD/LW,

OK I will await your return and I look forward to hearing about the regulation.

Nice picture. I agree that aircrew wore cloth badges in flight, just as Kriegsmarine and some Heer soldiers wore cloth badges due to the close proximity of their working environment, but one sees far fewer pictures of these cloth badges in wear then metal.

As for the USAAF, wings were normally made of sterling silver. There were cloth and bullion wings also avaialble for private purchase. As far as I know, my father never flew with any insignia. He has 6 pairs of silver wings, and one bullion, which he never wore. He typically wore an A-2 leather jacket which I believe was covered over with flight overalls.

Have a nice vacation.

Gary B

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[GD/LW]

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[ottodak]

When does this kick in?

rofl sorry but that was so funny

[RamJet]

Quite interesting lot of photos appeared on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA:IT&ih=008

Look at the pic #1, the Feldwebel to the left, and pic #20, the Unteroffizier, for the position of their jacket birds.

[RamJet]

... besides that a parachute harness for pilots has also a strap around the waist..

Jos.

Yep, Jos, I forgot that large waist strap under the buckle. I am used to today's ejection seats where the straps run differently than the parachute harness straps in WWII.

[PaulR]

WTF is up with all the deleted posts?

[Gary B]

Paul,

Not sure.....I see the moderators shut down the other thread (linked below) in the Association area that GD/LW started.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=305201

GD/LW must have decided to delete this post which was the basis for that thread, an action that certainly will not help his case in either thread.

Gary B

[naxos]

Here is a picture that illustrates the wear of a parachute harness in combination with medals.

Unteroffizier Mathias Erhardt, 1944



Regards, Hardy

[naxos]

A Fliegerbluse with a Fliegerabzeichen in Stoff from 1940.

Ltn. Ulrich Steinhilper, 1940


Hardy

[Bjørn]

Hi. I have no idea what this long thread is about anymore. This GD/LW charachter must clearly have a instability problem.
Whats up with first posting, and then deleting, after people comment? It only ruins the thread, and REALLY make you look bad.
Really annoying. Moderators should remove this thread, and ban GD/LW from further posting on the forum.

Regards
Björn