Early Sturmartillery Uniform portrait

[derka]

Maybe these were used by the Lehr instructors to stand out from the students... Matt

Some EM wore those wraps too, and they were not intructors imo.

[Michael H. Pruett]

A Few More

Great photos! Find a few more on this excellent site.

http://www.die-sturmartillerie.com/h...llerie11-.html

BTW existing stocks of these wrappers were issued mid-war to two StuG units sent to Finland.

Regards,
Michael

[PANZERPIONIERE]

True, I have an excellent book on Finnish armor showing these wrappers being worn.

[Glenn McInnes]

There was one of these posted here a few years ago amongst a bunch of other uniforms from a collection in Italy...No detail photos were shown,just distant photos but it looked believable in the few photos,early M36 uniform type cloth,dark green collar.











Glenn

[Mike Davis]

Fascinating photos derka, thanks for posting

[Alex Ciavaglia]

About this particular wrapper, it seems that it was a sperimental model used initially only in the Juterbög barrack where they formed the Stug crews (Sturmgeschütz-Lehrabteilung). Those wrappers were used also in the formal events (cadets weddings etc...) but never on campaign.

[Maxoumilitaria]

Those wrappers were used also in the formal events (cadets weddings etc...) but never on campaign.

Your information brings a new question to me: did the Allies use uniforms from warehouses / factories to dress the German POW ? I'm just having a hard time picturing how a solider could end up with such a wrapper in a US POW camp in 1945. The wrapper on the picture looks in very good condition and has still all its shape: it was definitely not worn from 1940/41 until the end of the war but kept safely somewhere in between.

He could have kept this wrapper as a dressing uniform but I guess they weren't allowed to "go home one last time to pick personal items and extra uniforms" befroe being brought to the US

[stugdriver]

What I learned from this thread is that this type of tunic with dark (green?) collar was used over a long period of time in small numbers additional to the common types of tunics. The pics with the early type of protection cap could be 1940 and pre 1940, the pic of #18 shows a StuG model “G” not before 1943. You can see this tunic with fighting units and with members of A.L.R. and A.L.R. (mot) 2 (see shoulder board wit L and L 2). A.L.R. (mot) 2 was not before summer 1941. Based on the existing pics the standard uniform for 7./A.L.R. (1937/38) and VI./A.L.R. (1939) was the black tank uniform but collar tabs without skull.

Wolfgang

[CSP]

Some of the caps worn in the photo on post #18 appear to be a black M43 (second from left) and a field grey M42 (center)...which, if true, would date the photo to at least 1943.

[derka]

Pic taken in France, training school in Tours, at least 2nd half of 1943,
from excellent Didier Laugier's book "Sturmartillerie tome 2" ed. Heimdal, p 99 :



derka