Hussar TK Skull Guidon Pennant WWI or WWII

[oldflagswanted]

Hussar Skull in WW2 ???

Thank you. My question is, was there a design used in WWII
and does anybody have pics of one? The Hussars did exist in
WWII, didn't they? If so, did they use their old WWI pennants?
I don't know, I'm just asking...I've always been a headgear
collector and have seen plenty of TR era visors with Hussar TKs
on them...

I've never seen a period photo of a Hussar type swallowtail
pennant in use during WW2. On the skull use on "TR era" Heer
visor hats, I note WAF t=32800, post #18:

"This tradition badge (Apothekentotenkopf) was worn by the
1st and 4th comp. of Infanterie Regiment 17, as well as by the
4th squad of Kav. Regt. 13. In the 30s, the wear was extended
to other formations into these two regiments.

But what's interesting, is that at the beginning of the war, this
badge was officially replaced by the prussian totenkopf (the
same as the Pz one, see APC's pic) ; and also that it was worn
again in the Kav. Regt Süd in 1943, that became later the Kav.
-Regiment 41."
OFW
(below-1/2) From cited WAF thread.


(below-3) WW2 era tradition badge (Apothekentotenkopf).

[mchap]

Just wondering, did the Hussars use a pennant in WWII. Very nice example shown here but isn't it WWI vintage?

Imperial German Cuirassier, Uhlan, Hussar and Dragoon regiments ceased to exist after WW1. Some of the regiments were absorbed into Freikorps groups in 1918/19, and then into Reiter Regiments of the Reichswehr throughout the first half of the 1920's.

There were multiple skull patterns, but generally Braunschweig Hussar Rgt 17 and IR17 had the TK style with jaw and crossed bones underneath the skull, where 1st and 2nd Leib Hussar regiments used the jawless style with crossed bones behind. No other Imperial cavalry regiments had deaths head badges.

A few TR era Cav. regiments were allowed to wear the traditions TK pictured in Oldflagswanted's post. For more info there are some threads in the Freikorps/Weimar section that discuss this.

[oldflagswanted]

tradition badge (Apothekentotenkopf) from elsewhere ...

Imperial German Cuirassier, Uhlan, Hussar and Dragoon regiments
ceased to exist after WW1. Some of the regiments were absorbed
into Freikorps groups in 1918/19, and then into Reiter Regiments of
the Reichswehr throughout the first half of the 1920's.

There were multiple skull patterns, but generally Braunschweig Hussar
Rgt 17 and IR17 had the TK style with jaw and crossed bones underneath
the skull, where 1st and 2nd Leib Hussar regiments used the jawless style
with crossed bones behind. No other Imperial cavalry regiments had deaths
head badges.

A few TR era Cav. regiments were allowed to wear the traditions TK pictured
in Oldflagswanted's post. For more info there are some threads in the Freikorps/
Weimar section that discuss this.

Tradition badge (Apothekentotenkopf) from elsewhere
online ...
OFW
"After WW1, the Totenkopf Hussar's tradition was carried on by
members of the Reichswehr's Reiter-Regiment 5, formed in 1921,
which later became the Wehrmacht's Kavallerie-Regiment 5 in
June 1936. In August 1939, the regiment was transformed into
three separate Aufklarungs Abteilungen (Reconnaisance Batallions),
and the tradition was discontinued. However, in 1943, the
Kavallerie-Regiment 5 was reformed and the tradition was reintroduced.
A slightly similar "skull and crossbones" cap badge (though not
the stereotypical Totenkopf) was also worn by members of the
German Army's 17th Infantry Regiment as a continuation of the
Prussian 92nd "Braunschweiger" Infantry Regiment's tradition."

Wikipedia: "The Totenkopf was used in Germany throughout the
inter-war period, most prominently by the Freikorps. In 1933,
it was in use by the regimental staff and the 1st, 5th, and
11th squadrons of the Reichswehr's 5th Cavalry Regiment as
a continuation of a tradition from the Kaiserreich."

(below) IMO lancer pennants were not used long in WW1. OFW
(below-2) 1st Bavarian Heavy Cavalry lancers after WW1.