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    #1

    LAH Erwache Standard...banner shape?

    Hello! Looking for info on the LAH Deutschland Erwache Standard(s). I've seen these with the square Erwache flag (like the Regimental one with the eagles), but never with the rectangular flags.

    Obviously, Erwache Standard flags came in both square and rectangular, but did the LAH ever use the rectangular one, for use with the Adolf Hitler title box? thanks
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    1st & 2nd LAH banners ???

    Originally posted by Jawohl View Post
    Hello! Looking for info on the LAH Deutschland Erwache Standard(s).
    I've seen these with the square Erwache flag (like the Regimental
    one with the eagles), but never with the rectangular flags. Obviously,
    Erwache Standard flags came in both square and rectangular, but
    did the LAH ever use the rectangular one, for use with the Adolf Hitler
    title box? thanks
    Hello Jawohl:
    The original 1933 Munich made LAH DE banner was
    replaced in 1940, by the Berlin made AH flag like
    version with four straight winged corner eagles.

    (below) LAH Standard with 1st pattern DE banner...
    Attached Files
    sigpic
    .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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      #3
      The above picture looks like it solves the LAH gorget mystery. 1938 SS Standarte Bearers Gorget

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        #4
        DE pattern update & LAH gorget question ???

        Originally posted by oldflagswanted View Post
        ...original 1933 Munich made LAH DE banner was
        replaced in 1940, by the Berlin made AH flag like
        version with four straight winged corner eagles.
        Actually the 1933 LAH DE banner was the third
        DE design, and the majority of the DE's issued.
        Per WAF thread t=548091 ...
        "First [DE] series 1923: 4 fully embroidered roundel.
        Second series 1926: 8 partially embroidered roundel."
        Third series 1927: solid material center roundel, which
        included the 1933 "first pattern" LAH DE of the 3rd DE
        design series. 1940 LAH "2nd pattern" had the 4 eagles.
        OFW
        Originally posted by DR DOLCH View Post
        The above picture looks like it solves the LAH gorget
        mystery. 1938 SS Standarte Bearers Gorget
        Hello DrD:
        I'm not a gorget collector, but assume you are talking
        about the WAF thread t=363822 "...existence" of the
        mystery LSSAH gorget that no one has ever seen outside
        of fuzzy pictures. ...mysterious LSSAH gorget ...from the
        Deeter/Odegard book ...is a murky shot of the standard
        bearer with the gorget hidden behind the standard carrying
        strap..." ...The drawing in Deeter/Odegard is an artist's
        conception of the gorget, ...featuring the LSSAH monogram
        executed on an oval shield surmounting the wreath and flags."
        OFW
        (below) Now classic Dick Deeter Gorget book. Dick told me he traded
        a ~4'x4' 3rd Reich white Infantry flag to BR in Santa Monica for the
        suit of armor for use on his Gorget book cover. An expensive cover.
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        Last edited by oldflagswanted; 02-29-2012, 04:58 AM.
        sigpic
        .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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          Gorget

          OFW I'm talking about the picture in post #2.It's right above my first comment oin this thread.It cleary shows (not that clearly) a SS 1938 Gorget and not the one in the Gorget book that you show. I think it's obvious. By the way I think an original suit of armor is worth quite a bit more than in Infantry standarte.He made a good trade.

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            #6
            Thanks Oldflags. The pic you posted is obviously the square 1933 pattern DE LAH standard, what I'm keen to find out is did the LAH ever use the rectangular DE banner (pic) at any point, before they changed to the 4eagle one in 1940? Thanks
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              rectangular DE banner ???

              Originally posted by Jawohl View Post
              Thanks Oldflags. The pic you posted is obviously the
              square 1933 pattern DE LAH standard, what I'm keen
              to find out is did the LAH ever use the rectangular DE
              banner (pic) at any point, before they changed to the
              4eagle one in 1940? Thanks
              My post #2 shown AH box LAH 1933 DE banner
              is indeed a "rectangular DE banner (pic)".
              OFW
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              Last edited by oldflagswanted; 02-29-2012, 04:43 PM.
              sigpic
              .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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                #8
                Wow. You're right! Your imaging work (much appreciated) shows that they're the same. Thanks, OFW!

                Wonder how I got to thinking that the usual LAH DE banner was square...all the other pics of it I've seen showed a square one--your pic is the first I've seen with it oblong. Have I been seeing things, or do the square LAH DE banners also exist?

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                  #9
                  Got to admit it, the National Socalists had very beautiful well decorated things, amazing!!

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