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    #16
    more fake characteristics ???

    NSDAP top, 1st pattern with bogus markings, from t=154415
    & "wmtf" t=427262 listed as Fk21.
    OFW
    sigpic
    .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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      #17
      pole top

      Hi here are some better pictures of it .
      Attached Files

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        #18
        polr top

        Hi the round piece at the bottom on the originals i seen are put togater with two pieces and not all made in one as mine is and is your one piece or made of two pieces? As for weight mine weights 1.8 pounds .

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          #19
          Originally posted by Jeremy92 View Post
          Hi all I picked up these two pole tops today. I am assuming they are both NSDAP. The one with the swastika is aluminum and is complete. I had one like it before but it was nickle and much heavier. So I am posting this to so if its authentic.(NSDAP?)
          Sold already yesterday: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=535332

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            #20
            current made repros ???

            Originally posted by cobra-2001 View Post
            Hi here are some better pictures of it .
            Nice photos of your stated current made top copy.
            Added one of your views with their catalog examples.

            OFW
            Attached Files
            sigpic
            .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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              #21
              pole top

              Hi Old flags thats fine I hate to see someone pay a high price for a copy. Hope they use this and learn .

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                #22
                The e-stand has become like the old e-bay minefield of days gone by.

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                  #23
                  Interesting dilemma. The weight might help tip the scales, as it were.

                  Unfortunately, the lack of the nozzle or cup part of the top doesn't help. I have a complete one I'll dig out to compare. I don't recall if it's RZM marked.

                  There were probably a number of makers so the design details can vary. However, I'm only aware of nickle plated brass ones and I've only seen RZM 60 marked on these. This was prior to the implementation of universal RZM regulations. However, as they were replaced by the second model in the mid by the second model, most do not have an RZM stamp.

                  The second types show various RZM makers. However, at this point, the numbering system had changed so RZM 60 (as far as I've seen) doesn't show up. Perhaps someone knows what maker 60 was and what new number it used later. I'm familiar with M3/27, M3/34, M3/35, and M3/40 marked second type NSDAP pole tops.

                  The second model is aluminum and it's possible that there were some early types done in aluminum (Jeremy states his silver one is alu) as well. Again, that may have been a later, briefly produced innovation, if it exists at all.

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                    #24
                    Second model makers as given in the thread are:
                    M3/27 - J.H.Schmidt Sohne from Izerlohn
                    M3/34 - Heinrich Marx from Izerlohn
                    M3/ 35 - I do not have reference
                    M3/40- I do not have reference

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                      #25
                      Hi Gents!
                      I have these to compare!
                      No marks on it!
                      Gian.

                      0493.jpg

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                        #26
                        pole top

                        The last post is a nice bird nice a crisp .

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