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    Duffel bag cut 91/30

    Ade, Here is one for you GI bring back duffel bag cut (U.S.S.R. Mosin-Nagant Model 91/30).. Picked up in France by a Berlington, N..C. Vet. (had a tag on it cannot find tag). Weapon Dated 1942.. Calibre 7.62x54r... What a place to 'Duffel Cut' it comes appart every time it is picked up... BILL
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              Hey great to see more people with mosins on this page. Do you know the meaning of the arrow in the triangle? It's a maker mark as far as I know, but who? Tula? Izhevsk? My finnish Mosin has it too on certain parts.

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                Originally posted by P08
                Hey great to see more people with mosins on this page. Do you know the meaning of the arrow in the triangle? It's a maker mark as far as I know, but who? Tula? Izhevsk? My finnish Mosin has it too on certain parts.
                PO8, The arrow in the triangle is Izhevsk Arsenal... Arrow in a star is TULA arsenal.. BILL

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                  Bill, thanks



                  BTW what does "Duffel cut" mean and what purpose does it serve?

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                    Originally posted by P08
                    Bill, thanks



                    BTW what does "Duffel cut" mean and what purpose does it serve?
                    Was done by GI's returning home. They cut the weapon down to fit into their duffel bags.... "Duffel cut".

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                      Bill, VERY nice example. This brings up the very interesting subject of Russian weapons used by the Germans in France. I have a SVT38 that was also a Vet. bringback from France, I also think it was "Gene" who posted a SVT40 that was a vet. bringback from France.

                      I have a book that lists the complete roster of firearms for a specific Div. on Normany just prior to the invasion. It is packed with captured weapons and they are listed by country of origin. I also have a German army magazine that shows German forces in Holland all with SVT40's and Nagant rifles.

                      Very nice
                      Robert

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                        Hi Bill, superb item. I wonder who carried this rifle? I wonder if he was a Russian in German uniform. Great peice of history.


                        Cheers, Ade.

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                          That's a tough find - a mosin in it's original finish and trim from the war.The vast majority were reworked after the war so few have survived in issue trim.Looks like a bolt mismatch , but we can't have everything. The duff cut is an easy repair - have fixed oodles of gew98 , kar98a , 98k , and numerous other rifles that were duff cut from WW1 and WW1 by returning service men.Alot were cut down as well not so much for duffle bags - but because of package size restrictions when allowed to post things home. The bolt needs to be de-rusted a bit.Go get some KROIL penetrant oil and a soft wire brush and fill a small bowl with kroil - soak bolt for a day then dip and brush , dip and brush.

                          PS - I have a large hardbound book on D-Day with a forward by W.Churchill and in there is a pic of US glider pilots in a higgins boat being returned to england and in the corner of the pic in the higgins boat is a 98k and an Svt40 - obviously souvenirs of those GI's !.

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                            No mismatched guns

                            Originally posted by gew98
                            That's a tough find - a mosin in it's original finish and trim from the war.The vast majority were reworked after the war so few have survived in issue trim.Looks like a bolt mismatch , but we can't have everything. The duff cut is an easy repair - have fixed oodles of gew98 , kar98a , 98k , and numerous other rifles that were duff cut from WW1 and WW1 by returning service men.Alot were cut down as well not so much for duffle bags - but because of package size restrictions when allowed to post things home. The bolt needs to be de-rusted a bit.Go get some KROIL penetrant oil and a soft wire brush and fill a small bowl with kroil - soak bolt for a day then dip and brush , dip and brush.

                            PS - I have a large hardbound book on D-Day with a forward by W.Churchill and in there is a pic of US glider pilots in a higgins boat being returned to england and in the corner of the pic in the higgins boat is a 98k and an Svt40 - obviously souvenirs of those GI's !.
                            Hello Gew98, Really weird numbers on bolt like backwards and upside down lettering E etc., and a shortened Sn.ending in 15 but matching.. BILL
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                              As mentioned by Gew. 98 these really are tough to find in issued condition. 99.999% of the millions of mosin nagants made during the war years were either reworked by the Soviets post war or were beat to hell after being handed out as communist aid to third world nations. I'll bet I've seen 10 matching 98k's for every one unreworked matching 91/30. Very nice example you have.


                              Jim

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