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    #16
    S/42 code on a 1943 K98k???...I don't think so. The "S" was dropped in the late '30s. Mauser's code was changed from 42 to byf in 1941 and they stayed with it until early 1945.

    Regards, Leon

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      #17
      Originally posted by leondes
      S/42 code on a 1943 K98k???...I don't think so. The "S" was dropped in the late '30s. Mauser's code was changed from 42 to byf in 1941 and they stayed with it until early 1945.

      Regards, Leon
      Leon, Your right!...I wonder if the top of the receiver was completely restamped?....I also believe it's possible the serial # on the bolt sleeve has been redone....Bad all the way around I'm afraid....Bodes

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        #18
        This rifle is as fake as a $3 bill! I could write a book about everything that is wrong with it!

        No question here. Thumbs way down
        Matt

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          #19
          Originally posted by Matt Weber
          This rifle is as fake as a $3 bill! I could write a book about everything that is wrong with it!

          No question here. Thumbs way down
          Matt
          What you have here is a Yugo postwar rebuild of a 98k / the Commies wiped the receiver clean then stamped the Yugo state markings lightly on the receiver then some enterprizing crook wiped the Yugo markings off and stamped fake German markings back on / the idiot did not stop to consult his reference library in his haste to make a dollar

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            #20
            This exact rifle has been discussed on this forum before.
            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...highlight=zf41
            Nothing seems to be corrected except the rear rainshield of the ZF41 scope has been put in right direction!
            Ken

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              #21
              Originally posted by KenT
              This exact rifle has been discussed on this forum before.
              http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...highlight=zf41
              Nothing seems to be corrected except the rear rainshield of the ZF41 scope has been put in right direction!
              Ken
              HI KenT,

              Good memory!! I thought I recalled that rifle being discussed on a forum before but I couldn't remember where I had seen it.

              Regards, Leon

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                #22
                SS -markings

                pure fantasy, yes thats my opinion also. SS -marked 98k:s but not in the period when this rifle is made. Most original SS -marked rifles are converted 1935 -1939 from old gew98 rifles. Mika

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                  #23
                  Hello Guys ,

                  Thanks for the info , i will steer clear of this one . I thought it was too good to be true .

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                    #24
                    What?

                    What a waste of a nice mount!

                    Robert

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                      #25
                      Ss

                      Originally posted by Grant Broadhurst
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                      The whole setup is a fakers fabrication..BILL

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                        #26
                        Robert, I totally agree with you!!
                        Ken

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                          #27
                          This is the third time this rifle has turned up - a peice of **** from the get go !.
                          It is made out of an imported marked 98k.Note the bubba refinish on stock , the black paint on metal , the blued buttplate , the absolute renumbering of rifle all around, the goofy drug induced SS runes in diamond. All pure bunk and the seller knows it.
                          The SS from about early 1937 to up until at least 1941 acquired gew98's from the HEER and had these rebuilt for them to 98k specs by private firms .As well HEER did supply the SS with damaged 98k's the SS had to pay for on their own to repair, and as well there was the inevitable battlefield salvage of HEER arms by the SS that went through SS depots to make serviceable. The SS ordnance applied a couple types of tote head proofs to these rebuilt/repaired rifles on the barrel and one in the wrist of the stock. These are big money rifles when found matching in unboogered VG + condition. The SS also had a backdoor arrangement with steyr to be supplied with bnz coded 98k's that did not go through the HzA inspection process.This lasted until Heer caught onto this breach of the supply chain, and though Heer did not have the clout to stop such SS procurement they did manage to have all further SS contract 98k's through steyr to be marked with a single rune to show they were not up to HEER standards , especially since many of these were sent to the SS concentration camps as parts and assembled there by slave labor.
                          From 1942 onward their was official procurement via Heer of steyr 98k's and many of these bear a particular SSzza2 and SSzza4 stamp on barrel and or receiver.
                          This is a very abridged stream of data on the subject . You must also note that while Law's work is excellent in general there are flaws and his section on SS marked arms is rife with innacuracy and actual facts pictured as legitimate SS peices.
                          Further let me add that alot of original SS marked rifles came in over the years from imports of russian captured 98k's. The percentage in any semblence of matching is close to zero, so many frauds have taken these rifles and made them matching for bucks! , but thankfully they do not pass the muster to a collector's eyes.

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                            #28
                            We have on Polish forum discusson about SS markings, after two findings with metal detector. Both rifles were found in Poland near Gdansk, Danzig.

                            1) Gew 98 with skull
                            2) with SS

                            Pictures are: http://www.odkrywca-online.com/pokaz....php?id=142785

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                              #29
                              SS k98

                              Amen Jim,
                              Colonel1

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                                #30
                                ok

                                Originally posted by mietek
                                We have on Polish forum discusson about SS markings, after two findings with metal detector. Both rifles were found in Poland near Gdansk, Danzig.

                                1) Gew 98 with skull
                                2) with SS

                                Pictures are: http://www.odkrywca-online.com/pokaz....php?id=142785

                                Mitek, In Poland, 100% correct.. BILL

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