Couple of Japanese Rifles

[Ronnie Fry]

You did not get burned, clestuff-- Those training rifles, in any condition, are pretty thin on the ground.

[clestuff]

The crest on the type 38 is for the Nippon special steel training rifle. Likely doesn't have a serial number, and probably has a smooth bore with no rifiling. It wasn't made to fire live ammunition.

I just looked at the rifles better. The longer rifle [or type38] is a smooth bore. I can find no serial number of any kind on it. The only marking is the odd symbol on the receiver. The shorter rifle appears to have some kind of tube in the barrel made of a different material. It has a P 30-06 on the receiver. It does have a serial number on side of receiver I didn't notice before. Its 60131. Has a symbol before and after the number. I am a bit disappointed I ended up with a couple of odd balls but still think I did ok for $175.

[pdawg1911]

You did fine for $175.00. If you can take a close up of the serial number area that reveals that arsenal marking, we could tell you more about the Type 99.

Thanks,
Pat

[clestuff]

new pics

I took some pics of 99 and 38. I don't know why the 99 has a tube in barrel. I wish I had looked at them better before I bought them. They just seemed so clean and had all the bluing I thought I couldn't go wrong.

First 5 pics are of 99 [not agent 99].

[clestuff]

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last pic of Type99. Whats up with the barrel?

[clestuff]

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School or training rifle? Type38

[clestuff]

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Seems to have a good sight for a "trainer"?

[clestuff]

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I read some past posts that say "trainers" have barrels that are no more then tubes. This looks like a well made barrel [and rifle] that can be fired. I'm a bit confused. Thanks for all the help, Cliff

[clestuff]

$$

Can anybody give me an approx. value on these?

[herd118]

Hmmm, the type 99 has probably been redone for 30-06 caliber (postwar). That used to be kind of popular to do. If the barrel was correctly replaced with a new one, it would be ok. But sometimes they were just rechambered. I might suggest a gunsmith examine it before you shoot it, to see what was done to it in the recent past.

[herd118]

I read some past posts that say "trainers" have barrels that are no more then tubes. This looks like a well made barrel [and rifle] that can be fired. I'm a bit confused. Thanks for all the help, Cliff

Don't shoot it with live ammunition. It was intended for training purposes, using blank cartridges only.

[Gimpy117]

Hmmm, the type 99 has probably been redone for 30-06 caliber (postwar). That used to be kind of popular to do. If the barrel was correctly replaced with a new one, it would be ok. But sometimes they were just rechambered. I might suggest a gunsmith examine it before you shoot it, to see what was done to it in the recent past.

I'd keep the 30-06 unless you REALLY want it to be original. It's next to impossible to find 6.5 jap let alone 7.7 jap