Originally posted by Dallas
Thanks. I wish I could scan the nr, because it looks more like a 656 since I got my magnifying glass. I can't see very well anymore. 
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I looked at a listing of waffen amt #'s on the internet and did not come across a 656....Only a 655...At this point, I'd have to side with gew98....It appears to be Oberndorf made....Dallas, are you sure it's not 63? That would be more in line with Waffen Werke Brunn (dot).....Bodes -
Yes, I posted a change yesterday about that. The marking where the dot is located is a 63.Comment
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No DallasOriginally posted by Dallas
, I meant on the bolt where you think you see a 656(or 655) on the underside....I'm wondering by chance if it is a 63 also?...This would be of course correct for a dot rifle.....Bodes
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Dallas:
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First off 33/40’s use the same standard length bolt as the Gew 98, 98a, 98k, vz24, g 24 (t), 29/40, 29o and countless other 98 styled mauser actions.
Pictures will clarify everything. While I hate to speak in absolutes when it comes to collecting armaments made by the Germans, I highly doubt that a legitimate matching 33/40 has a 98k bolt in it.
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A solid handled bolt, with the SN on the top two Wa655’s on the bottom came off of a late 39’ through early 41’ dated “42” coded (Oberndorf) 98k.
It is not legit for a late 42 Brunn made 33/40. At least not one that was made in 1942. Even if a 98k bolt was used it would have been proofed with the e63 proof that was being used at Brunn at that time. Also, there are documented matching dot, 1942 marked 33/40’s well into the “d” block with the correct 33/40 hollow handle bolt.<O
Again, I don’t like absolutes because we can always be surprised.Comment
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The round bolt on my 945/1940 has two waffen amts. One has weak numbers underneath. The center number is 4 . I would guess the number is 540 ,546, 640, 646, 0r 548. Do any of those numbers make sense?Originally posted by 3371940Dallas:
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First off 33/40’s use the same standard length bolt as the Gew 98, 98a, 98k, vz24, g 24 (t), 29/40, 29o and countless other 98 styled mauser actions.
Pictures will clarify everything. While I hate to speak in absolutes when it comes to collecting armaments made by the Germans, I highly doubt that a legitimate matching 33/40 has a 98k bolt in it.
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A solid handled bolt, with the SN on the top two Wa655’s on the bottom came off of a late 39’ through early 41’ dated “42” coded (Oberndorf) 98k.
It is not legit for a late 42 Brunn made 33/40. At least not one that was made in 1942. Even if a 98k bolt was used it would have been proofed with the e63 proof that was being used at Brunn at that time. Also, there are documented matching dot, 1942 marked 33/40’s well into the “d” block with the correct 33/40 hollow handle bolt.<O
Again, I don’t like absolutes because we can always be surprised.Comment
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749 is BSW/Gustloff (bSw manufacturers mark, then 337Originally posted by nutmeg
and later bcd codes).
wa140 is FN. many many subcontracted bolts have this mark. They were found on mid to later war 98k's, typically bcd and byf.
Here's a good link to the waffenampt codes:
http://users.swing.be/sw017995/waffenamt.htmComment
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I totally agree with this statement above. Very well said, and you are right about the "absolutes". Sometimes they always seem to come back and bite you! But not in this case I'm afraid.Originally posted by 3371940Dallas:
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First off 33/40’s use the same standard length bolt as the Gew 98, 98a, 98k, vz24, g 24 (t), 29/40, 29o and countless other 98 styled mauser actions.
Pictures will clarify everything. While I hate to speak in absolutes when it comes to collecting armaments made by the Germans, I highly doubt that a legitimate matching 33/40 has a 98k bolt in it.
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A solid handled bolt, with the SN on the top two Wa655’s on the bottom came off of a late 39’ through early 41’ dated “42” coded (Oberndorf) 98k.
It is not legit for a late 42 Brunn made 33/40. At least not one that was made in 1942. Even if a 98k bolt was used it would have been proofed with the e63 proof that was being used at Brunn at that time. Also, there are documented matching dot, 1942 marked 33/40’s well into the “d” block with the correct 33/40 hollow handle bolt.<O
Again, I don’t like absolutes because we can always be surprised.
Also, Dallas, and any others may want to check out the K98 article on this site. There are good photos taken that compare some of the differences between the K98 and G33/40 (bolts, as well as the rest of the rifle).
Matt
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Nutmeg, My 945/1940 has a K3 stamped on the bottom side of the bolt and also the Z in a circle proof (Czech proof)....Matt, What thread/link are you talking about?....Would like to read it....BodesOriginally posted by nutmegComment
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Some Bolt Markings
Hopefully this works.
early 33/40 firing proof on bolt handle:
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Some more
Early inspection markings, k6 is internal Brunn marking
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Later type 33/40 bolt
Later FP is on top of the stem:
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Later inspection proof
...where the circle "z" is replaced with E63:
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To the discussion if a 98K bolt matches the 33/40, it does....
I have a barn found 33/40 which has an 98K bolt in it ....
What i have learned in that thread ..the z in the circle is a Czech proof, i was
always woundering what this stamp represents on my second 33/40 which is coded 945/1940
if you use the search function maybe you can find this one here, because there was a thread sometimes ago where i posted the rifles ...
Grüsse
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I have a barn found 33/40 which has an 98K bolt in it ....
Grüsse
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Herbert, Just curious but what is the maker/year of the rifle with the K98k bolt and what are the markings on the bolt (bottom side of bolt handle)?...BodesComment
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