uk deactivation certificates

[robinhood]

Hi all
Are UK deactivation certificates traceable to a specific gun once they get into puplic domain? e.g .. A weapon deactivated in 2006 and had more than 4 owners.

Thanks Rob

[Jon Fish]

Rob, As I understand it the certificate is for the gun, not the owner and so is transferable from owner to owner.

[robinhood]

Rob, As I understand it the certificate is for the gun, not the owner and so is transferable from owner to owner.

Thanks jon
Rob

[Alan Smith]

What happens if the Deact Certificate gets lost? I assume that the government maintains records of these and will provide a replacement upon request?

Are there legal ramifications to possession of a Deact w/out Certificate? I am assuming that the government has the gun registered as a "deact" with a copy of the Certificate on file?

Just wondering: we run into all sorts of problems here in the U.S. involving legally registered machineguns where the registration paperwork gets lost over time, so I am curious as to how a similar issue is handled under British law.

[Viktor]

The weapon system also has a marking stamped on it by the proofing house, so it is identified Comrade.

[stevezz1]

I bought two Lugers some years ago without de-ac certificates. I contacted the proofing house for some duplicates and was told that no records were kept so a duplicate was not possible. Hard to believe but that I what they said.
I had to send the pistols in for checking and I was issued new certificates.
This was about ten years ago, things might have changed now.....

Steve.

[Patty D]

As long as the deactivation stamps are on there, and are clear, then I think it is perfectly ok to own the gun without the paper certificate.

[Hans Zeug]

Certificates.

Hi, I'm pretty certain that I was able to get a duplicate certificte from the proof house after my gun was stolen from me then eventually returned to me. I think there are two proof houses in the UK and one would think they both must have records of the guns that have been deactivated by them. Regards David.

[LES Y]

The Proof Houses do keep records which relate to Weapon type, Serial numbers/Certificate numbers, however they will not issue a replacement certificate without examining the weapon. Once checked the gun is re stamped with fresh Deact stamps and issued with a certificate dated with the actual date of inspection not the original date.

[archer]

The Proof Houses do keep records which relate to Weapon type, Serial numbers/Certificate numbers, however they will not issue a replacement certificate without examining the weapon. Once checked the gun is re stamped with fresh Deact stamps and issued with a certificate dated with the actual date of inspection not the original date.

And, I would imagine, an invoice for the work?

[LES Y]

And, I would imagine, an invoice for the work?

I was £80 plus courier costs last year.

[Jon Fish]

Les I have a colleague with a K98 without certificate but deactivated and stamped up. Can He sell it as is? Or is it now needing a certificate to own or sell?

[LES Y]

Les I have a colleague with a K98 without certificate but deactivated and stamped up. Can He sell it as is? Or is it now needing a certificate to own or sell?

Hi Jon,

You can buy, own and sell a Deact without a Certificate as long as all the modified parts (Bolt, Barrel and receiver) have the correct Deact stamps. Expect to get £70 - £100 less for a gun with a missing Cert.

Les