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    uk deactivation certificates

    Hi all
    Are UK deactivation certificates traceable to a specific gun once they get into puplic domain? e.g .. A weapon deactivated in 2006 and had more than 4 owners.

    Thanks Rob
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    Rob, As I understand it the certificate is for the gun, not the owner and so is transferable from owner to owner.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Jon Fish View Post
      Rob, As I understand it the certificate is for the gun, not the owner and so is transferable from owner to owner.

      Thanks jon
      Rob

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        #4
        What happens if the Deact Certificate gets lost? I assume that the government maintains records of these and will provide a replacement upon request?

        Are there legal ramifications to possession of a Deact w/out Certificate? I am assuming that the government has the gun registered as a "deact" with a copy of the Certificate on file?

        Just wondering: we run into all sorts of problems here in the U.S. involving legally registered machineguns where the registration paperwork gets lost over time, so I am curious as to how a similar issue is handled under British law.

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          #5
          The weapon system also has a marking stamped on it by the proofing house, so it is identified Comrade.

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            #6
            I bought two Lugers some years ago without de-ac certificates. I contacted the proofing house for some duplicates and was told that no records were kept so a duplicate was not possible. Hard to believe but that I what they said.
            I had to send the pistols in for checking and I was issued new certificates.
            This was about ten years ago, things might have changed now.....

            Steve.

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              #7
              As long as the deactivation stamps are on there, and are clear, then I think it is perfectly ok to own the gun without the paper certificate.

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                Certificates.

                Hi, I'm pretty certain that I was able to get a duplicate certificte from the proof house after my gun was stolen from me then eventually returned to me. I think there are two proof houses in the UK and one would think they both must have records of the guns that have been deactivated by them. Regards David.

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                  The Proof Houses do keep records which relate to Weapon type, Serial numbers/Certificate numbers, however they will not issue a replacement certificate without examining the weapon. Once checked the gun is re stamped with fresh Deact stamps and issued with a certificate dated with the actual date of inspection not the original date.

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                    Originally posted by LES Y View Post
                    The Proof Houses do keep records which relate to Weapon type, Serial numbers/Certificate numbers, however they will not issue a replacement certificate without examining the weapon. Once checked the gun is re stamped with fresh Deact stamps and issued with a certificate dated with the actual date of inspection not the original date.
                    And, I would imagine, an invoice for the work?

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                      Originally posted by archer View Post
                      And, I would imagine, an invoice for the work?
                      I was £80 plus courier costs last year.

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                        #12
                        Les I have a colleague with a K98 without certificate but deactivated and stamped up. Can He sell it as is? Or is it now needing a certificate to own or sell?

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                          Originally posted by Jon Fish View Post
                          Les I have a colleague with a K98 without certificate but deactivated and stamped up. Can He sell it as is? Or is it now needing a certificate to own or sell?
                          Hi Jon,

                          You can buy, own and sell a Deact without a Certificate as long as all the modified parts (Bolt, Barrel and receiver) have the correct Deact stamps. Expect to get £70 - £100 less for a gun with a missing Cert.

                          Les

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