Which firearm?

[HouweTrouwe]

Could anyone help me to identify this firearm or could positive identify this as a british Stengun?

Many thanks in advance!

<a href="http://www.ipernity.com/doc/198517/11295935"><img src="http://u1.ipernity.com/19/59/35/11295935.ecc68a46.jpg" width="610" height="507" alt="Question #1" border="0"/></a>

[me6_130]

To me it looks like an MP28.

Carles

[searchandfind]

Carles opinion is also my opinion. It looks líke a German Schmeisser MP28.

[Douglas Jr.]

For sure a German MP28... this kind of gun saw frequent use by the Waffen-SS and Polizei units.
Can we see the whole picture???

Douglas

[james m]

It's an MP28. Note the stick magazine protruding from the left side. This sub gun also took the 32 Round snail drum as well.
Jim

[IMBLITZVT]

This sub gun also took the 32 Round snail drum as well.

No thats the MP18I with the snail drum. Different time of manufacture and different mag well... among other things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP_18

[kanister]

Maybe also a MP18, father of the MP28 and grandfather of the British Lanchester.

Of the family were also the Belgian Peiper and the Estonian Tallin.

Illegitimate sons were the Spanish Naranjero, many were seized in France after the disband of Spanish republicans at the French border.

[me6_130]

In this one you can almost see the little holes around the barrel tip, at the front piece.

Illegitimate sons were the Spanish Naranjero, many were seized in France after the disband of Spanish republicans at the French border.

I recall once seeing a Spanish MP28 'Naranjero' with a fire stamp on the butt that said 'Aguiluchos de la FAI' (an anarchist militia during the Spanish Civil War)

Is this pic one of the new album you have just received??:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=535108

Carles

[HouweTrouwe]

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=1#post4823418

Whole picture posted here (see above). Comments always appreciated

[Alan Smith]

I would say that it is an MP-28, as it clearly has a 32 shot mag in it. The MP-18's that were converted (by C.G. Haenel for the Weimar police/military) to use 20 shot "stick" mags will not accept a 32 shot MP-28 mag. Thus, when you see a WWII German soldier with a MP-18 or MP-28 type SMG that has the much longer 32 shot mag in it, you know that the gun is actually an MP-28. The MP-28 will, however, accept the 20 shot mags so if the photo shows the much shorter 20 shot mag in use then it is much more difficult to determine exactly which SMG is being used.

Here is a photo that shows the differences in the locking collar for the 32 shot [MP-28] mag and the 20 shot mag used in the C.G. Haenel Weimar-era conversions of MP-18's from the "drum" to "stick" type mags. The 20 shot mag is on the bottom of the photo.

[Douglas Jr.]

Thanks for the picture - really nice one!
Interesting to see the MP28 serving in a frontline unit so late in the war (according to the dates on the cover of your album).

The Schmeisser MP28 is also seen in several pictures taken during the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

[james m]

I would say that it is an MP-28, as it clearly has a 32 shot mag in it. The MP-18's that were converted (by C.G. Haenel for the Weimar police/military) to use 20 shot "stick" mags will not accept a 32 shot MP-28 mag. Thus, when you see a WWII German soldier with a MP-18 or MP-28 type SMG that has the much longer 32 shot mag in it, you know that the gun is actually an MP-28. The MP-28 will, however, accept the 20 shot mags so if the photo shows the much shorter 20 shot mag in use then it is much more difficult to determine exactly which SMG is being used.

Here is a photo that shows the differences in the locking collar for the 32 shot [MP-28] mag and the 20 shot mag used in the C.G. Haenel Weimar-era conversions of MP-18's from the "drum" to "stick" type mags. The 20 shot mag is on the bottom of the photo.

It's IMO an MP28 and these could be used with the converter as shown . I have a 32 round Type 1 snail drum that goes with my artillary model Luger but still has the MP 28 converter with it.
Jim