KKW gustloff with SS stamp

[thor62]

hello
one friend have this since a long time.
i go to this home for look a heer dagger and i look the KKW, so i take in pics
have you ever look one with SS stamp like this??
SS stamp on the right
eagle stamp on the left of the wood
thanks
karl

[thor62]

pics 2

[thor62]

pics 3

[thor62]

pics 4 the stamp
if you want other pics no problem

[JoeW]

Karl, what do you mean "eagle stamp on the left of the wood"? Do you mean the eagle/N proof on the receiver shown in your second photo? That is a standard commercial proof stamp found on III Reich firearms after January 15, 1940. Can you provide a better close-up of the Rune stamp without the glare? This stamp is very different from the property stamp seen on SS DSM 34s and bears examination. It is known the SS received Gustloff KKWs, but the acceptance stamp is the question.

[thor62]

runes without flash

the eagle is similary like the pics2 yes but it's on the wood

[JoeW]

Karl. Can you provide a photo of the eagle stamp in the stock that you mention? The rune stamp seems to have been applied in two parts: the circle and the runes.

[thor62]

the eagle on the other side of the wood

[thor62]

eagle in BIG

[Von Kleist]

Karl. Can you provide a photo of the eagle stamp in the stock that you mention? The rune stamp seems to have been applied in two parts: the circle and the runes.

Keep in mind the stock has been sanded and refinished so the stamp might be a little faint.


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[JoeW]

Keep in mind the stock has been sanded and refinished so the stamp might be a little faint. ..

Are you basing the sanding/refinishing comment on the closed stock grain and gloss to the finish?

I don't think sanding produced the faint stamping. The eagle doesn't look like it was affected by any sanding. Looks new. And the runic stamp still appears done in two phases. If the stamps had been original, the result to the runes would have been equally seen on the circle stamp as well as the eagle. And the rune stamp differs greatly from accepted SS DSM 34s.

[Frank De Smedt]

Are you basing the sanding/refinishing comment on the closed stock grain and gloss to the finish?

I don't think sanding produced the faint stamping. The eagle doesn't look like it was affected by any sanding. Looks new. And the runic stamp still appears done in two phases. If the stamps had been original, the result to the runes would have been equally seen on the circle stamp as well as the eagle. And the rune stamp differs greatly from accepted SS DSM 34s.

Thor62,

I agree both stamps are fake. At the end of the buttstock you can clearly see the buttstock has been sanded. Normally the wood is slightly thicker than the plate.
The normal Ss marking is RFSS in a circle with all small letters


Kind regards,

FRANK

[jh-ss44]

yes , repro. marks . the eagle really should not be there.... it may have had another group of markings that looked worse , so sand it down & start again..
these are hard enough to find , no need to fake up the markings. jeff

[thor62]

thanks for the information
why the guy have made this mark??????
what is the price of one normaly?
thanks
karl

[Von Kleist]

Are you basing the sanding/refinishing comment on the closed stock grain and gloss to the finish?

No, the stock disc and around it, has been sanded fairly well...


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