K98 Steyr Matching # Help???

[Chap15]

Hello,
I was told this was a Steyr but it doesn't have the WA### markings. I could use some help finding out what it is. All are matching numbers. Thanks.

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[Walter Sp]

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Hey Chap 15,

this rifle is not from 'Steyr'. The marking '147, 1939 below' stands for J.P. Sauer & Sohn, Gewehrfabrik Suhl. They use this makers mark since the year 1939. Before they have the marking 'S/147'. The eagle with the number 359 is the correct WAA-Stamp for this manufactorer. You can see a rifle with the same markings in Richard Law's book about the K 98 rifle on page 104 left.

wish I could have one like this

greetings from germany

Walle

[Chap15]

Hey Chap 15,

this rifle is not from 'Steyr'. The marking '147, 1939 below' stands for J.P. Sauer & Sohn, Gewehrfabrik Suhl. They use this makers mark since the year 1939. Before they have the marking 'S/147'. The eagle with the number 359 is the correct WAA-Stamp for this manufactorer. You can see a rifle with the same markings in Richard Law's book about the K 98 rifle on page 104 left.

wish I could have one like this

greetings from germany

Walle

How would this rifle compare to a Steyr or a bmz marked K98. Is is worth more or less or depends on the beholder? Germany is a nice place...good food ..three years in Schweinfurt, I miss it

[Ostmark]

Steyr markings are from till 1940 "660" WaA 623 and from 1940-45 "bnz"
Sauer&Sohn markings:
1934: S/147 K
1935: S/147G WaA 116/114
1936-38: S/147 WaA 359
1938 -40: 147 WaA359
1941-43: ce (kursiv) WaA359
1943-44: ce WaA37/280

Hope that helps
Ostmark

[graf]

Steyr made are "generally" more desirable...

and consequently more expensive!
Contrary to backbone Steyr started producing the 98k in 1938, and early Steyr rifles (29/40; 98k) are darn hard to find in original finish & matching.
Sauer made rifles are desirable but they are often found with lesser quality metal finish- further they are far more common to find matching & undinked up...

My database shows 6 1939 Steyrs (98k; 29/40) & I have 9 1939 Sauers recorded/imaged- dusting off backbone the differences are more startling, 200,000 vs 17,000 (not sure if he is counting the 29/40?)

Everyone has their favorite maker, as you now have a nice early 98k if I were you... I would chose Sauer as my favorite!

How would this rifle compare to a Steyr or a bmz marked K98. Is is worth more or less or depends on the beholder? Germany is a nice place...good food ..three years in Schweinfurt, I miss it