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    K98 Steyr Matching # Help???

    Hello,
    I was told this was a Steyr but it doesn't have the WA### markings. I could use some help finding out what it is. All are matching numbers. Thanks.
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    Last edited by Chap15; 05-01-2004, 10:09 AM.
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              Originally posted by Chap15
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              Hey Chap 15,

              this rifle is not from 'Steyr'. The marking '147, 1939 below' stands for J.P. Sauer & Sohn, Gewehrfabrik Suhl. They use this makers mark since the year 1939. Before they have the marking 'S/147'. The eagle with the number 359 is the correct WAA-Stamp for this manufactorer. You can see a rifle with the same markings in Richard Law's book about the K 98 rifle on page 104 left.

              wish I could have one like this

              greetings from germany

              Walle

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                Originally posted by Walter Sp
                Hey Chap 15,

                this rifle is not from 'Steyr'. The marking '147, 1939 below' stands for J.P. Sauer & Sohn, Gewehrfabrik Suhl. They use this makers mark since the year 1939. Before they have the marking 'S/147'. The eagle with the number 359 is the correct WAA-Stamp for this manufactorer. You can see a rifle with the same markings in Richard Law's book about the K 98 rifle on page 104 left.

                wish I could have one like this

                greetings from germany

                Walle
                How would this rifle compare to a Steyr or a bmz marked K98. Is is worth more or less or depends on the beholder? Germany is a nice place...good food ..three years in Schweinfurt, I miss it

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                  Steyr markings are from till 1940 "660" WaA 623 and from 1940-45 "bnz"
                  Sauer&Sohn markings:
                  1934: S/147 K
                  1935: S/147G WaA 116/114
                  1936-38: S/147 WaA 359
                  1938 -40: 147 WaA359
                  1941-43: ce (kursiv) WaA359
                  1943-44: ce WaA37/280

                  Hope that helps
                  Ostmark

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                    #10
                    Steyr made are "generally" more desirable...

                    and consequently more expensive!
                    Contrary to backbone Steyr started producing the 98k in 1938, and early Steyr rifles (29/40; 98k) are darn hard to find in original finish & matching.
                    Sauer made rifles are desirable but they are often found with lesser quality metal finish- further they are far more common to find matching & undinked up...

                    My database shows 6 1939 Steyrs (98k; 29/40) & I have 9 1939 Sauers recorded/imaged- dusting off backbone the differences are more startling, 200,000 vs 17,000 (not sure if he is counting the 29/40?)

                    Everyone has their favorite maker, as you now have a nice early 98k if I were you... I would chose Sauer as my favorite!




                    Originally posted by Chap15
                    How would this rifle compare to a Steyr or a bmz marked K98. Is is worth more or less or depends on the beholder? Germany is a nice place...good food ..three years in Schweinfurt, I miss it

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