Hey Guys. I got this Erfurt Double date luger about 2 years ago. I loved shooting it when I first got it, but didn't put many rounds through it because of what it is. I'm considering selling it to get other things because this weapon is turning into a "safe queen." I literally got it for free so I can't go off of what I paid for it since it was nothing... What would you guys rate this luger at and how much would you price the whole rig for? Thanks guys.
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All numbers are matching and there is a WWII breakdown tool, WWII mag, Weirmar Mag, 1915 dated holster. -
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Well... it is a former military Luger, made in 1918, that stayed in use by the Weimar Army (hence the 1920 property stamp) and was later pressed into Police service (sear safety added). The unit mark in the front grip is a Police unit. The gun seem to be in original finish, which is always good.
However, there is something strange: the serial number in the front frame is incorrect for a military gun. Military Lugers were numbered in 9999 guns blocks, to which a suffix letter was added: 01-9999, 01-9999a, 01-9999b and so on. So, You Luger never could have a five digit serial number; this feature is only present on Commercial Lugers made by DWM before 1922.
Thus, something was messed and this has a harsh effect over the price.
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http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=344533
There is a link from when I first got the pistol and it somewhat explains the extra digit on the serial number. I hope this helps. Even if I don't sell it, I'd like to know a value for the pistol. Thanks again guys.Comment
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Thats a Nice Luger considering the Holster and two clips I would say easily $800.Comment
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This is an Army 1917 Erfurt that was transferred to the state police of Saxony after WWI. The 1920 stamp on the chamber identified it as government (police) property during the disarming of the German population. The canceled marking S.L.Pol. on the grip strap stands for Sächsiche Landessicherheits-Polizei (State Security Police of Saxony). This was an early Weimar-era militarized police force that the Allies insisted be disbanded in 1920. It was merged with the major-city police to form the Sächsiche Polizei. The second marking S.P. over L. stands for Sächsiche Polizei Leipzig.
Note that there is no weapon number in the S.P.L. marking. The Saxon police used the manufacturer's serial number without a letter suffix to identify pistols in their inventory. In the case of Lugers, this resulted in occasional duplicate numbers. The solution was to append a 1 prefix to one of the duplicate serial numbers.
More about this and other examples of similiar 5-digit serial numbers may be found in Chapter 14 of History Writ in Steel.
The holster is interesting. It once had a police-style closure that has been replaced with a military-style closure. It is possible that it saw police service with this pistol.
A very interesting rig with a history.
I am not a good estimator of value because I really like police-marked pistols with histories but most collectors do not and they are the ones that set the market.Comment
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I'll take a dozen of those rigs for $800 each.
I'll even pay shipping.
Money is tight, but this is a decent rig, history aside.
Realistically Most folks would want $1500 +or-MLPComment
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IMO, there is no way that rig would sell for anywhere near $1,500. WW1 Lugers are less desirable than the WW2 variety, and from what I have seen the double-dates take a particular hit. I see nice matching WW2 Lugers sitting at $1,000-$1,200 all the time.Originally posted by MikeP View PostComment
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Dave, thanks for the link to remind me about this pistol.
And a BIG thank you to Don for the explanation about the digit added to the serial number. It really makes sense, considering the way how things worked with the Polizei inventory control.
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