Amazing - FG 42, 2nd model / K43 soon for sale !!!

[Gary Cain]

There shouldn't be an issue getting these into the US. They are basically the same a the old HK 770 hunting rifles. The FG 42 on the other hand probably will not be wlcomed which is a shame.

[Josh Beckett]

Saiga sporting rifles are basically AK47/74 with some cosmetic changes and they are imported to the US. Maybe they can do the same with these newly made K43 clones.

The K43 clones will be OK no matter what because they arent assault weapons, the only assault weapon feature on it is the detachable mag, but then again it isnt really an assault weapon feature because it only holds ten rounds. The Saiga sporting rifles were built specifically for sporting use and arent modified AKs (if I remember correctly some imported chinese AKs in the 80s had full auto recievers modified to semi auto and there was a recall on them), unfortunately we have never imported any AK clones from russia (other than the saigas and VEPRs). Our gun laws are so confusing.

[jiipee76]

I asked prices from importer here in Finland for SSD guns and they are:

BD44 -> 2900euros
BD42 -> 7500euros
K43 -> Not yet available but should be around 1800-2100euros

[Josh Beckett]

That K43 is almost as expensive as an original one. I would rather have an original one though.

[SplFrcsCWO]

It has to be a sporting rifle. It used to be that the rifle was adaptable to sporting purposes(IE no machine guns), Bush Sr banned the import of all semi auto assault weapons. The K43 would be importable because it isnt an assault weapon, the FG42 copy would not be importable because it is an "assault weapon". American gun laws are lenient, but the gun laws that are there are so stupid and they dont make any sense whatsoever. In Europe they ban guns on how they function, in America we mainly ban guns on cosmetics. I dont agree with any gun control, but the European gun laws actually somewhat make sense and I can see their reasoning, in America I just have to sit back and think WTF are they thinking.

It was Clinton that gave us the "sporting purposes" (remember the shotguns that were declared DDs because they had no "sporting purpose") and 922r import BS.

[Scott A. Hess]

Wow, exciting, I"d love to own a few of these.

[Josh Beckett]

It was Clinton that gave us the "sporting purposes" (remember the shotguns that were declared DDs because they had no "sporting purpose") and 922r import BS.

If I remember correctly the pro gun lobby supported the 922r laws (they were protectionist, it would allow US gunmakers to make parts for these guns and practically force us to buy their products), most of the assault weapon laws that we have help out the US gun makers, tapco would most likely not exist (well, they wouldnt be as rich as they are) if it werent for the 922r BS. The GCA of 68 had a sporting purposes clause in it, but that clause was for NFA weapons only ("Particularly suitable or readily adaptable for sporting purposes"), President Bush 41 passed the assault weapon import ban via executive order in 1989, Clinton only banned the import of Chinese made weapons via executive order (except for the ripped off coach guns), and the assault weapons ban (which thankfully we dont have to deal with anymore).

[SplFrcsCWO]

Clinton had "sporting purposes" applied to all firearms. He also banned importation of US made weapons and parts ie, no M1 Garands or Carbines.

[Gimpy117]

That K43 is almost as expensive as an original one. I would rather have an original one though.

it depends with me. if it proves to be as reliable as the old ones why not buy it as a shooter?

[Heinz Steinkopf]

it depends with me. if it proves to be as reliable as the old ones why not buy it as a shooter?

I agree.
If you are going to shoot it quite often, I guess it is a better idea to protect the original one from wear and tear on the shooting range.

[Josh Beckett]

Clinton had "sporting purposes" applied to all firearms. He also banned importation of US made weapons and parts ie, no M1 Garands or Carbines.

The sporting purposes thing was in the GCA of 68, the GCA of 68 only banned guns that werent readily adaptable for sporting purposes (IE full autos, destructive devices etc), Bush 41 had an executive order that changed that to guns that were already suitable for sporting purposes. Clinton did ban the import of US made guns that werent lend leased (pretty much just the guns we sold to Korea, the Phillipines and South Vietnam), but Congress can approve guns that arent lend leased to be imported.

[Josh Beckett]

it depends with me. if it proves to be as reliable as the old ones why not buy it as a shooter?

Great point, now that I think of it, it would be a good idea to get one if you dont want to tear up your collector grade guns by shooting them.

[D Day Dog]

Semi FG42s Type 2s are hopefully going to come available in the USA this fall. They will have to pass ATF approval first, of course. This is not the Estes Adams FG42.us project. It is being done by a separate company in Texas. The SSD FG42 will very likely never see the USA - unlike the SSD MP44 which got here in limited quantities and only a few left to sell from Recon Ordnance in WI.

Keep your fingers crossed on the USA made FG42s. I'd love to own one.

D Day

[Scott A. Hess]

Hmmm, I think soon its time to start saving for a K43

[DennyB]

Hmmm, I think soon its time to start saving for a K43

Well, if someone like Recon Ordnance gets the exclusive option to import these don't expect them for the estimated $2,000 price. The BD-44 is selling for 2100 euros in Europe and $2,700 Canadian in Canada but he is asking (and apparently getting) $4,995. for them in the U.S. because he is the only game in town.
As I have said before, if they wanted to move these, make them reasonable. I am sure that if the BD-44 was priced as it is in Canada here in the U.S. they would have already sold 2,000 of them. Then they could have sold thousands of mags to go with them. Then there would be ammo sales too.