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    #16
    I have a US naval intelligence manual on Japanese aircraft that talks of ME-109s and FW-109s being used by the Japanese in the PTO. Always.... thought that was a little strange.

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      #17
      The Luger might have been a Dutch one...
      As far as the use of German a/c is concerned, can't speak to that but wartime intelligence is not always accurate.

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        #18
        http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=125995

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          #19
          I started buying from veterans in the early 1950's and have yet to see a weapon with capture papers. Sure they exist, but not in the quantity seen now days. Let's face it, after the veteran got the weapon home, that little piece of paper lost all relevance.

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            #20
            I bought a book at a garage sale that was selling hundreds of books, many of them WW2 related history books. While thumbing through them I found a couple of photos (standard GI portraits) so I kept thumbing through the books and I found half of a capture paper for a luger. It was well worn, creased and had bad corners and faded ink. I gave it to a luger collecting friend in 1995. I always think of it when I see capture papers that are in excellent condition.

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              #21
              Originally posted by dag001 View Post
              I started buying from veterans in the early 1950's and have yet to see a weapon with capture papers. Sure they exist, but not in the quantity seen now days. Let's face it, after the veteran got the weapon home, that little piece of paper lost all relevance.
              Oops! Old age and a fading memory - I did have one capture paper; it was for a Walther PP marked to SA Gruppe Berlin-Brandenburg with an SA marked holster. The odd part is that I actually got the paperwork a few years after the pistol. The veteran was moving into a nursing home and ran across the papers while disposing of his belongings. He was kind enough to call me.

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                #22
                On the one (1) "capture paper" I have that I obtained directly from the vet, I can report that the veteran kept the paper post-war because he believed it to evidence his legal title to the gun (i.e. just like the deed to his home). Thus, to this vet, the paper was very much significant even after he got home with the gun; significant enough for him to keep the paper for 50+ years until selling the gun to me. Upon consumating the sale transaction, the vet presented the paper to me with comments to the effect that the paper would now represent my legal title to the gun (an S/42 1938 dated P.08 w/ holster).

                Nice old guy that I believe is now deceased (I did not keep up with him as he moved to another city shortly after I bought the gun from him). His name was the same as my brother's - so I will always remember him. RIP

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                  #23
                  I collect out of the wood work only and I can say that out of all the guns I have seen I have two sets of capture papers and 1 informal set. What I mean by that is I have a friend who was on Iwo Jima with the 4th Mar Div and got a German Walther pp from a jap he killed on Iwo and he signed some papers that I typed up testifying as to where he got the gun

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