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    Is this German WW2 9mm Ammo??

    Hey everyone, I don't know much about german ammo. But I bought what was supposed to be german ww2 9mm ammo. Is everything in the photo original pre-1945?

    I also saw some sealed boxes of german ammo, it was 25$ a box.. is that a fair price?


    #2
    Hey Rylan, I see you hit the gunshow!! All casings appear to be German WW2 vintage. I paid a couple years ago $7 for a box of sealed 9mm. Congrats!

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      #3
      Hey Joe, do you think there is any chance the casings have been reloaded??

      I paid about 25 cents a round, which is rougly the going rate for a new 9mm as you know. The show was not bad today, a lot of people. Not too much german militaria. The anual show in March is always killer hope to see you out there.

      Cheers.

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        #4
        There is a cartridge marked H arrow N, that is British military for the Sten or Highpower. There is also a cartridge marked WCC 43. That is Winchester Cartridge Company so US made.


        Gary

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          #5
          Originally posted by Gary Cain View Post
          There is a cartridge marked H arrow N, that is British military for the Sten or Highpower. There is also a cartridge marked WCC 43. That is Winchester Cartridge Company so US made.


          Gary

          Hey thanks Gary, that helps weave out the non german rounds. Is there a site that explaines these markings as well as german ammunition types, markings etc?

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            #6
            Hi Rylan,

            I honestly don't know about a web site out there that does what you want it. I have loads of books that I have studied over the years which is where I got my info.


            Gary
            Originally posted by RylanBrissette View Post
            Hey thanks Gary, that helps weave out the non german rounds. Is there a site that explaines these markings as well as german ammunition types, markings etc?

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              #7
              Hi Rylan ;
              Here are the manufacturing abriviated codes ;
              fb = Mansfeld AG , Rothenburg Plant , Saale
              dou = Waffenwerke Bruenn, Bystrica , Czechoslovakia
              aux = Polte Werk , Magdeburg
              dnh = Rheinische-Westfaelische Sprengstoff AG , Durlach Plant, Baden
              oxo = Teuto Metallwerke GmbH, Osnabrueck
              faa = Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken AG , Karlsruhe
              ak = Munitionsfabriken Sellier und Bellot, Praque (Vlasim) , Czechoslovakia

              Hope this helps,
              Douglas

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                #8
                Originally posted by Douglas 5 View Post
                Hi Rylan ;
                Here are the manufacturing abriviated codes ;
                fb = Mansfeld AG , Rothenburg Plant , Saale
                dou = Waffenwerke Bruenn, Bystrica , Czechoslovakia
                aux = Polte Werk , Magdeburg
                dnh = Rheinische-Westfaelische Sprengstoff AG , Durlach Plant, Baden
                oxo = Teuto Metallwerke GmbH, Osnabrueck
                faa = Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken AG , Karlsruhe
                ak = Munitionsfabriken Sellier und Bellot, Praque (Vlasim) , Czechoslovakia

                Hope this helps,
                Douglas
                Thanks Douglas! that is exactly the info I was looking for! Where did you find that? a reference book or the internet?

                Also, this is a newbie question... I assume the 2 diget number... 41, 42, 43 is the date correct? And was the Czech made ammo for german use, made while occupied?

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                  #9
                  Yes, and yes again.

                  Cheers
                  Gary
                  Originally posted by RylanBrissette View Post
                  Thanks Douglas! that is exactly the info I was looking for! Where did you find that? a reference book or the internet?

                  Also, this is a newbie question... I assume the 2 diget number... 41, 42, 43 is the date correct? And was the Czech made ammo for german use, made while occupied?

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                    #10
                    Just google cartridgecollectors.org and you will find their headstamp ident. page.

                    Hope this will help,Terry

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                      #11
                      Yes Rylan :
                      The abriviation codes are from : Kent: German Military Ammunition Book and from other on line sites , there are many !
                      One that I found had a very complete listing of all letter codes : that includes all Ammo and all weapon and non weapon parts with any type accessories and non related equipment , letter markings\ codes found on canteens, gas masks , leather goods/holsters etc .: 17 pages !

                      http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/codes_full.html

                      As a very general description only :40, 21, 42 ...... at that position (9 o'clock) indicates year , and other numbers in that head stamp configuration (6 o'clock) are batch or lot numbers .

                      Douglas

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