Luger with British and Nazi Markings

[STUPA216]

Evening all,

I was looking at some 3rd reich items from an estate for a friend and he brought me this luger and wanted to kknow what I could tell him. It has British and nazi proof marks and is dated 1942. I will attach a few pics including one of the holster. CAn anyone tell me anythign about the luger and the current value of the gun and holster.

Thank you
Kurt

[STUPA216]

Side MArkings

Pic 2

[STUPA216]

Under barrel Markings

Seem much liek arsenal reworks. Markings give spcs for ammo in english

[STUPA216]

Holster Markings

So I do not forget the luger appears to be all matching #'s. Here are the holster markings and holster is black.

Thank you
Kurt

[phild]

The 42 dated banner is a pretty scarce and desirable Luger. The extra marking on this one indicate that is was proofed in England (Birmingham I believe) to comply with British law before being exported from that country. A better look at the proofs could tell you if this was done before or after 1955 but, it really makes no difference.

[Ronnie Fry]

It's a commercialy marked gun with Eagle over "N" proofs. It would be interesting to see what the full serial number is. There will be an alpha suffix to the four digit s/n you show. Look on the front of the frame under the bbl. With that suffix, we can probably give you a little more info as to it's origin. Also looks like it might have had a sear safety at one time. So probably police issue. Mauser Banner Lugers are sought after by collectors (like me!! ) A desirable piece. The English proof marks are indication of possession by a British citizen/soldier. All British firearms must be proofed before export. So you could assume the pistol was captured by a Brit, taken home as a war trophy, then sold to an exporter. To me, the Brit Proofs do not detract, but add to the provenance/history of the weapon. Other collectors will disagree. Nice holster too!!

r

[Douglas Jr.]

Hi Ronnie,

Don't you think that it was a Luger used by the Police? It seems that it had a sear safety once, look at the small hole in the first picture.

Just a thought...

Nice Luger and holster by the way! Congratulations.

Douglas

[GWA]

The pistol had the hole tapped for a sear safety but did not necessarily ever have one. I have seen other of 42 Banners in this configuration. I would imagine that the pistol is in the y block which falls into the range of 1942 police banners. If it is police I would expect it to have a police acceptance stamp.

[Ronnie Fry]

Also looks like it might have had a sear safety at one time. So probably police issue.
r

Yep Doug, that's what I was talking about on the sear safety-- And it's good to hear from George that some came that way. Drilled and tapped, or whatever, but without the safety ever being installed. Learnin' something every day.....

r

[STUPA216]

Luger

Okay guys any value range on the pistol or holster? I need to tell him something and then I will put him in touch with anyone interested in buying it. Just a reasonable estimate on both would be a help.

Kurt