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**Willi Z.** · 03-22-2020, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by William Hull View Post

Willi,

No, YHM 3302-M14-SA-QD mount

Thanks!

**Willi Z.** · 03-22-2020, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post

How's that HK group at 100 yards?

Just at 1 MOA. The scope is a standard 4x Bundeswehr Hensoldt (more like a "marksman" scope), so that along with a lousy trigger, can't offer much better results.

Nothing like my Sako TRG with 175gr FGMM, a Schmidt & Bender 5 - 25x, and a trigger pull at 20 ounces. 1/8" 3-shot group.

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**J. Wraith** · 03-22-2020, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Willi Z. View Post

Great stuff!

Yes, SilencerCo is my favorite too. I had a baffle strike last November with an Omega and a ASR mount on my HK91, and they replaced all the inner components as well as the end cap.

Here is my Osprey 45 I use on .45 1911s, 9mms (VP9, P-230), and my Sig MPX-K.

This is a nice setup here. How do you find this in terms of performance and sound. I am looking at the new B&T 45 carbine and it will be the first .45 suppressed unit. I used to have a lot of this material but its been some time.

That sig is sharp.

**Gene** · 03-22-2020, 11:10 AM

As tempting as it may be, never use a potato

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlfGZ7AU5Cs

**Promo** · 03-22-2020, 01:39 PM

I have four silencers for the K98k and one for the MP40, all from WWII period (as well as Soviet BRAMIT M.91/30 silencer)

The few I have for modern rifles are PBS-1 for AK47, MAC and Mauser 66 SP.

**WalterB** · 03-22-2020, 05:05 PM

Wilson SBR with Elcan Specter DR weapon sight.

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**101combatvet** · 03-22-2020, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Willi Z. View Post

Just at 1 MOA. The scope is a standard 4x Bundeswehr Hensoldt (more like a "marksman" scope), so that along with a lousy trigger, can't offer much better results.

Nothing like my Sako TRG with 175gr FGMM, a Schmidt & Bender 5 - 25x, and a trigger pull at 20 ounces. 1/8" 3-shot group.

Pretty nice group. The bolt in these rifles is a bit radical while going into battery. I always wondered how this might affect match ammo without a military crimp.

Is the Sako a .300 or .338?

**Willi Z.** · 03-22-2020, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by WalterB View Post

Wilson SBR with Elcan Specter DR weapon sight.

Sharp! Have always been a Wilson fan. All my compensated 1911s are loaded with his parts and accessories.

**Willi Z.** · 03-22-2020, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post

Pretty nice group. The bolt in these rifles is a bit radical while going into battery. I always wondered how this might affect match ammo without a military crimp.

Is the Sako a .300 or .338?

Would never waste match ammo in a HK91 series. Rough on brass, just not meant for precision shooting without modifications. The only semis I use match ammo are my Super Match M1A and a couple of Armalite Match AR-10s.

My Sako is a .308.

**N.C. Wyeth** · 03-23-2020, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by J.1.M.B.R View Post

Unfortunately no. Lots of legalese, but will do my best to help.

Thanks for the detailed reply, "J.1.M.B.R" - much appreciated.

For as complicated as all that is, it must certainly be a genuine labor of love and appreciation to be an owner of one of these devices. I can recall the effort I was facing long ago - to transfer an MP38/40 from a friend. Sounds very much the same. At the time, I was young - and it seemed too complicated and costly. Guess I didn't have the same amount of love and appreciation for things as I do today.

**WalterB** · 03-23-2020, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Willi Z. View Post

Sharp! Have always been a Wilson fan. All my compensated 1911s are loaded with his parts and accessories.

Thank you Willi, I love your collection

**Jeff V** · 03-23-2020, 07:58 PM

Phenomenal group in that Sako Willi! I have a TRG-42 in .338 Lapua and it shoots the same. Sako makes incredible guns. As far as the HK91 a one inch group with one of those with the old Hensoldt is some mighty fine shooting IMO.

**Willi Z.** · 03-24-2020, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by J. Wraith View Post

This is a nice setup here. How do you find this in terms of performance and sound. I am looking at the new B&T 45 carbine and it will be the first .45 suppressed unit. I used to have a lot of this material but its been some time.

That sig is sharp.

I use a subsonic 147gr 9mm round, and with a 4.4" barrel it still requires some light ear protection. But, it is smooth and accurate.

Will have to check out the B&T, as I would like to have a .45 carbine.

**Willi Z.** · 03-24-2020, 02:23 PM

Jeff, I recall you had a TRG in .338. A lot of blast from that round. Yes, the TRGs are out-of-box a perfect set-up. I use a custom 6.5 Creedmoor rifle for matches, and I can not get the group size of a TRG. The round is, however, better in the wind beyond 800 yards than any .308.

On the HK once you master that long hard trigger, and stop just before it breaks, you can control it slightly better. Yes, the Hensoldt with that standard heavy German sniper scope center post doesn't help either.

**J.1.M.B.R** · 03-24-2020, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by N.C. Wyeth View Post

Thanks for the detailed reply, "J.1.M.B.R" - much appreciated.

For as complicated as all that is, it must certainly be a genuine labor of love and appreciation to be an owner of one of these devices. I can recall the effort I was facing long ago - to transfer an MP38/40 from a friend. Sounds very much the same. At the time, I was young - and it seemed too complicated and costly. Guess I didn't have the same amount of love and appreciation for things as I do today.

No problem N.C. Wyeth. I appreciate the "thanks".

Exactly. Same process. Best advice I was ever given on waiting for a transfer is pay/file and forget about it. What's nice is that $200 tax hasn't changed since that whole Registry started. $200 isn't as much as it was 20 or 30 years ago, so it takes a little bit of the sting out. Still not pocket change though. On a $500 rimfire suppressor...$200 is a little bit to swallow. Just going in you always keep that $200 in mind.

While I don't agree with the Constitutionality of the NFA and the Sin Tax - which is exactly what it is. That $200 tax in the 30's was the equivalent of $3,000 today....I don't like the idea of spending time in Federal Prison, and losing what rights I think I have.

Same here. Now that I'm more patient...those items I was looking at when I was younger are more scarce and costly. That MP38/40 would cost quite a bit more nowadays. Last transferable one I saw was north of 16k. Was a nice, all matching amnesty gun. Course asking price and selling price don't always come close. Shoot...the "cheapest" transferable (MACs, Sten tube kit guns and the like) run around 7 or 8k.

What's nice about the suppressor route is that for the time being they are still being manufactured and available for folks that can pass the same background requirements as owning a pistol. And live in a State that allows them. Not a fixed supply like the Transferable MGs. So prices are fairly reasonable for what you get.

Not too late to get into the game N.C.! I don't know your shooting habits/preferences, but if your going to get just one suppressor, consider a Rimfire can. So addictive. Rimfire and subs are so much fun. Though those rimfires are dirty little birdies...so get ready to clean a lot.

If you do have any more questions on taking the plunge, feel free to reach out to me. Always happy to get good fellows into NFA items. Take care.

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