MAX Show Dagger Seminars

[den70]

Is it possible for those in the community who are unable to attend the seminar bulletin release with photo and basic theses. Electronically probably it will be easier to do. And sell it by subscription. Or perform a live broadcast. You can make a Skype conference or something like that.

[Texasuberalles]

U tube?

[nurseswim]

Seminars

Is there a schedule when these seminars will take place?

[Ron Weinand]

friday evening at 7:30 PM at the host Double Tree Hotel.

[den70]

Gentleman, who was daggers seminar. Please tell for community about it.

[gennki]

Is it possible for those in the community who are unable to attend the seminar bulletin release with photo and basic theses. Electronically probably it will be easier to do. And sell it by subscription. Or perform a live broadcast. You can make a Skype conference or something like that.

This would have been a fantastic idea if it could have been set up.
Would have been a date not to be missed for the collecting community that can't attend these events in person.

[Serge M.]

I attended. It was great. However, the problem I saw was that there was not enough time to handle all the info the three presenters had to offer.

Tom Wittmann presented first. I can tell he tried to keep his presentation time down so that Ross and Ron had good quality time, but it still didn't help much. When Tom left the stage it was already 10 PM.

That said, the material was very exciting. Starting with details on the SA Rohm Christmas daggers. One collector provided a e-pack example for viewing. Slides were
shown of details between the Eickhorn and e-Pack types. Great info was provided on serial numbering and Grip eagle variants, copper scabbards, possible number produced.
Next were the Special Presentation daggers, like the rarely seen Raised Panel types. Numerous quality slide photos were provided. Then presentation and dedication etched pieces with blade dedications. Discussed was also the moving of trademark locations to provide more blade space was required.
Then followed the Ernst Rohm dedicated daggers, with numerous slides from different makers of full Rohm dedications.
Tom took extra time here to explain the different e-Pack maker Logos that were used on Rohm daggers. Something that he said was a mystery to many collectors.

Unfortunately time was running out. There were many areas that I was looking toward seeing, like Honor daggers, High Leaders, Marine and variants. However-
there is no doubt that it was a exciting presentation, and a job well done by Tom Wittmann.
There is no question that the book will be the worth the wait, filled with numerous new information with exciting photos of rare daggers that have never been published, and everyones knowledge will be enriched. Tom said it was going to be a big book, larger than the SS.

And now for the question that everyone has been asking: When will the book be published ?
Tom said it will be out next year !

We all have been waiting for this 'Exploring Daggers of the SA/NSKK' a long time. Knowing Tom, he doesn't do anything 'Quick n Dirty'. Publishing the SA dagger and many of it's known variants, is a huge untertaking. By itself it is a full time job. Somehow, working the hours with his world class Militaria site, attending militaria shows all over the U.S., answering emails and calls from around the world on a daily basis, doing ALL the write-ups on each item, and then squeezing out time for this huge tome, not mentioning his family, - is something that only Tom Wittmann can do. He personally doesn't need any more 'success', he does it because he is 'All In' for the hobby. We are very fortunate to have a man like this who is so generous in so many ways, and one man I'm proud to call a friend.

As far as questions on releasing the copyrighted photos here, prior to the books publication that were included in the pictorial presentation, I don't think that will be allowed. Although I did take some photos (many of which are poor quality), I don't have the authority to release them here.

-wagner-

[BobI]

I never imagined in my wildest dreams a lecture on SA daggers would have been so fascinating, it was awesome! Actually, all three presenters did a fabulous job and was worth the trip alone. I greatly enjoyed it, did anyone tape it? I did see a few people using their phones or cameras to record parts at least.
Great job!
Bob

[Bulldog]

Sounds like everyone had a good time. Wags can you tell us what Wittmann said that was a mystery to many collectors.

[Serge M.]

Sounds like everyone had a good time. Wags can you tell us what Wittmann said that was a mystery to many collectors.

Witty said on the E-Pack Rohm dedication daggers, that the company used several slightly different logos. Many collectors still think they are fake when in actuality they are authentic.
He showed a couple of examples. One looked like this one on a current thread.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=825561

[The Red Baron]

Witty said on the E-Pack Rohm dedication daggers, that the company used several slightly different logos. Many collectors still think they are fake when in actuality they are authentic.
He showed a couple of examples. One looked like this one on a current thread.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=825561

This was a very interesting part of the lecture for me. As a younger collector, I was not even aware that many believe the Epack Rohms and such to be bad, based on the quality of the mark. I have an M33 Epack, as my collection is all black, and his lecture made me go home and look ito ver very closely.

[N.C. Wyeth]

This was a very interesting part of the lecture for me. As a younger collector, I was not even aware that many believe the Epack Rohms and such to be bad, based on the quality of the mark. I have an M33 Epack, as my collection is all black, and his lecture made me go home and look ito ver very closely.

I had one of these M33 EPack's back in the 90's - one with a poorly-define Siegfried. Some said it was "legit", others said it wasn't . . . but the rest of the dagger quality was all there.

I never had any doubt . . . and when the time finally came - had absolutely no trouble selling it.

[11C]

I have always stayed away for the "Pack" daggers just because of that "argument" ventured by Wittmann. Many of these daggers have been sold by dealers over the years with the argument always SUGGESTING there were multiple trademarks over just a few short years. I would like to see some period documentation to support that viewpoint. This was not a "cottage industry" company, and to change the logo six or seven time in two/three years is illogical IMO. Are there any catalogs that could support these changes. Did the other model daggers produced by E-Pack change logos as well?

[BobI]

11C,
I think you would have enjoyed Tom's seminar, much of the information you want he addressed. I have always considered these real but avoided them because they don't sell well. I think that will change now as other tainted items have over the years. In reality, the reason the TM varies so much is because they were not a cottage industry. I hope Tom gets that book out in the near future!!
Best Wishes,
Bob

[11C]

11C,
I think you would have enjoyed Tom's seminar, much of the information you want he addressed. I have always considered these real but avoided them because they don't sell well. I think that will change now as other tainted items have over the years. In reality, the reason the TM varies so much is because they were not a cottage industry. I hope Tom gets that book out in the near future!!
Best Wishes,
Bob

I'm sure I would have. I hope the book does address these concerns. Tom is indeed a knowledgeable source for this kind of information, and his value to the hobby cannot be overemphasized.