SS officers degen

[blitzkrieg gsd]

It's,so,hard to say for sure on some,of these. Soon as you think everything is good you notice something you don't like. I'm likening this sword but now that the maker mark is being questioned I'm doing the same. That's why I'm so scared to buy one I love these pieces and would like to own one. But every time I,start to question the piece I'm looking at. Just like this poster is starting to do.

[JONATHAN]

Has anyone seen a Krebs makers mark as this one? The examples I have seen are much different. Sword itself may need a close look, I'm newer to the forums and look forward to others opinions. Just seems a little awkward to me ... Maker mark , grip fit seems put together , more makes me cautious

Nothing wrong with this sword at all, there are at least two variations of the Krebs maker mark.

[Barry Brown]

Nothing wrong with this sword at all, there are at least two variations of the Krebs maker mark.

The degen is a good one. This TM is seen on the earliest Pet Dan Krebs SS-degens.

[Seppen]

SS Degen

Sword is a good early all nickel version with early trade Mark. I have owned three of these and still have one. Early versions did not have the inner tang nut cover that later ones have, certainly not on my swords, later swords seem to have the cover. This sword sold on CG auction was too cheap, it was mine, numbered to Willi Fortenbacher, won't do auction again. Previous auction sword sold much better!

[nurseswim]

Auction

I wish I had "pulled the trigger" on your numbered SS sword on CG auction. Very nice

[nurseswim]

Maker

Just for my comfort, I have exhausted my limited resources and cannot come up with this krebs maker mark as being authentic.. Is there a reference book, site, other examples you can give. I have researched a few krebs maker marks as being " really versions" . Nothing close to this example tho

Please advise and TY

[The Red Baron]

It is fine.

[Seppen]

SS Degen

Page 362 in Tom Wittmans book shows the early waisted logo, if you are happy to accept his book as reliable. Most of it is I think!

[nickn]

It's a one looker
If the fakes ever get this good it will be time to give up

[nickn]

It's a one looker
If the fakes ever get this good it will be time to give up

[nurseswim]

Ss

TY for the reference, exactly what a novice as myself looks for

[BobI]

Nice sword and as Barry said, this is the earliest style TM found on SS swords. The second pattern in a shield can also be found on early SS officer swords. Either is fine and I always like to see that stepped fitting the pommel screws into. That is unique to SS swords, you can not convert a police sword into a SS sword like this.
Best Wishes,
Bob

[Wartime Collectables]

Nice sword and as Barry said, this is the earliest style TM found on SS swords. The second pattern in a shield can also be found on early SS officer swords. Either is fine and I always like to see that stepped fitting the pommel screws into. That is unique to SS swords, you can not convert a police sword into a SS sword like this.
Best Wishes,
Bob

Thanks all! Hope it's appropriate to note in this thread... I'm not a sword collector and am looking for good clean examples of IIIrd Reich daggers in trade if someone has a few extra's and needs this sword!
Andrew
wartime@wartimecollectables.com