Naval daggers, Carl Eickhorn and Paul Weyersberg

[nbuergel]

Hi guys,

I purchased several daggers off of a son of a B24 pilot today, as well as Wittman's 3rd volume concerning dress naval daggers. I am certainly not practiced when it comes to third reich edged weapons, let alone navy daggers. Upon consulting Wittman's book (like I said purchased today off of the same gentleman where the daggers came from), I feel good about the Eickhorn dagger but not so much on the Weyersberg. The release button is notched on the Eickhorn and drilled on the Weyersberg. The buffer pad appears to be felt on the Eickhorn and leather on the Weyersberg.

Please let me know what you guys think.

Thanks,

Nate

First, the Eickhorn.





















And now the Weyersberg.

[Schlange]

Although not in the best condition, Eickhorn M38 KM dagger is original, produced in the period between 1941-1942.

Schlange

http://www.mojalbum.com/schlange88/albumi

[Serge M.]

I see nothing wrong with either dagger.

I really like those early Weyersberg daggers with the drilled crossguard.

My opinion; Nice score.


-wagner-

[Sergiy]

The C.E. dagger is O.K.

The P.Weyersberg dagger is post war and part dagger:

1.Pommel and crossguard are post war type.

2.Marked mark on the reverse.

3.C.Eickhorn scabbard.

Sergiy.

[Dr.Vet]

The C.E. dagger is O.K.

The P.Weyersberg dagger is post war and part dagger:

1.Pommel and crossguard are post war type.

2.Marked mark on the reverse.

3.C.Eickhorn scabbard.

Sergiy.

Hi Sergiy,
Do you assume that every P.Weyersberg blades with TM on the reverse are postwar?

Regards
Jakub

[Ron Weinand]

Both are good IMO.

[nickn]

Nice daggers both of them

[Schlange]

The C.E. dagger is O.K.

The P.Weyersberg dagger is post war and part dagger:

1.Pommel and crossguard are post war type.

2.Marked mark on the reverse.

3.C.Eickhorn scabbard.

Sergiy.

As far as I know, quite a few Paul Weyersberg KM dagger has a Carl Eickhorn KM scabbard.

Schlange

http://www.mojalbum.com/schlange88/albumi

[fdodge]

I agree that both daggers are original TR period.

Regards,
Frank

[dr01]

Both daggers are original. The Weyersberg trademark should always be on the reverse of a navy blade so it is where it should be.

Danny

[Sergiy]

Jakub

To mark on the blade reverce for P.Weyersberg dagger it is the same as to mark C.Eickhorn dagger on the blade obverce.It is possible to violate construction dokumentation?Tell me just a little bit one Kriegsmarine dagger made firm that changed the marked mark location from obverse to reverse or on the contrary.The same is respected for C.Eickhorn scabbard for P.Weyersberg dagger.This is nonsense.Moreover P.Weyersberg had used generic type scabbard that made in unlimited quantity.

By the way the P.Weyersberg blade tang should have the marked mark in the form of large "H" with little "A" and "C" inside.

Regards Sergiy.

[dr01]

Sergiy,
I would love to know where you get your information from. I'm sure you know the book "Exploring the dress daggers of the german navy" by Thomas Wittmann. If you look on page 292/293 you can see the Weyersberg trademark is on the reverse of te blade. You could also check the website of mr. Wittmann. He currently has 5 Weyersberg navy daggers for sale. Three of them have the trademark on the reverse. So I have to correct my previous statement too. There do seem to be original blades of Weyersberg with the trademark on the obverse of the blade. But I don't think the daggers on Wittmann's website or the one in his book with the trademark on the reverse are fakes. This one shown here isn't a fake eighter. Neither are the ones that are currently for sale at Ruptured Duck and Brian Maederer (militaria collectables). These navy daggers have the Weyersberg trademark on the reverse too.
Danny

[nbuergel]

Thanks guys. That's what I was hoping to hear. Anymore pictures needed?

Nate

[Serge M.]

Thanks guys. That's what I was hoping to hear. Anymore pictures needed?

Nate

No.

[Dr.Vet]

This is untouched dagger from my collection purchased directly from the kriegsmarine wet family.