SS boker, opinions

[adren]

It's not the color of the letters rather the letter form. Everyone looks at different features 1st. I always look at the base of the "h", see how it looks like an arrowhead? Remember that.
As far as DetLev, he's still one of the most knowledgable guys in the hobby. When these new generation fakes started to hit the market no one had seen them before and many got fooled.
There is no one in the hobby who is infailable.
You do however has a great bunch of knowledgeable guys willing to help right here.

I see that arrow H gives it away right there, also the M is no good. I am more of a medals collector so that's why I wondered about Detlev, but seems he was foremost a medal guy too.

Best Regards,

Adren

[adren]

Now I am a confused about my RZM 121/34

There is another one for sale on ruptured duck, and motto is more "fat" on that one than on mine; is this unusual?

http://www.therupturedduck.com/WebPages/Edged/e442.htm

First one mine,

[adren]

First mine:

It seems that 121/34 numbers are not the same either, or maybe it is just the pictures

[lakesidetrader]

Each maker has it's own etch template. There are very subtle differences between makers. So a Boker etch does not appear the same as a Pack etch for example. Many of the expereinced guys here keep an archive of what each makers etch looks like. Same as iron cross cores and frames vary by maker. If you are going to collect SS daggers you need to do this. Be cautious, fakers are getting smatter all the time. Unforunately threads like this one educate them too

If you just want to get one. Suggest you bounce it off our friends here or someone you trust.
I wish you every success in your search.
Paul

[adren]

Each maker has it's own etch template. There are very subtle differences between makers. So a Boker etch does not appear the same as a Pack etch for example. Many of the expereinced guys here keep an archive of what each makers etch looks like. Same as iron cross cores and frames vary by maker. If you are going to collect SS daggers you need to do this. Be cautious, fakers are getting smatter all the time. Unforunately threads like this one educate them too

If you just want to get one. Suggest you bounce it off our friends here or someone you trust.
I wish you every success in your search.
Paul

Thanks for good words!

Yes I think I will buy only from 100% sure source, unfortunately am a bit short of money at the moment and the first one was pretty cheap that's why I posted it here.

I see you have many nice daggers for sale.

Would you have an opinion about my dagger and the other for sale, they are both good?

Even with marked differences on motto and maker mark?

Best Regards,

Adren

[LH 600]

DetLev, he's still one of the most knowledgable guys in the hobby. There is no one in the hobby who is infailable.
You do however has a great bunch of knowledgeable guys willing to help right here.

Paul.

A Sertifikate Doc from Dietlev means nothing in my eyes. Sorry.

You have to study them and read books and save pics of the SS daggers & looks for variations & other things.
If you do that you build up a Knowledge of the daggertype you want to collect.

That means a lot and you can be safer to "Judge" daggers around for sales.

Knowledge is POWER and a Document doesnt mean anything.
Why thrust them ? Money is a big word into this collecting area.If you always thrust others judgment.........you loose money for nothing.



There is a reason that Boker now are for sales. have you think about that

[lakesidetrader]

BTW Anden not only are the fakers doing daggers, they do the Cert's to go with 'em too!!
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=460109

With this dealer out of the business now it's pretty darn hard to call him up and ask if a particular cert is real.

Mr LH is correct invest in yourself and learn, Witty's book is a great investment.

[adren]

BTW Anden not only are the fakers doing daggers, they do the Cert's to go with 'em too!!
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=460109

With this dealer out of the business now it's pretty darn hard to call him up and ask if a particular cert is real.

Mr LH is correct invest in yourself and learn, Witty's book is a great investment.

Thanks, I agree that Niemann COA's are probably worthless now, which is a pity.

I will look up Wittmann's book, thanks for the tip.

Best Regards,

Adren