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    SA Klaas transitional double marked Mint

    Well folks.

    here is a nice to Mint quite rare SA made up by Klaas as you can see in the pics. The dagger have a Short hangar.
    The blade is Pure mint as new. The rest of the dagger is also very nice. I think i not will find better trans SA by this maker.

    I have many early SA into my collection. I have work hard to find a dagger like this. Finally its here

    Hope you like it .

    Regards LH





















    #2
    Nice

    Here's my only transitional: (photos not mine, got them through seller. I am still learning with camera)


    Best Regards,

    Adren
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      #3
      Nice SA Adren
      Thanks for sharing pics of it
      LH

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        #4
        really nice daggers, I would really like to add a transitional to my collection, I just have not seen many nice ones like this. Do the transitional daggers usually cost more than an early due to rarity?

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          #5
          Originally posted by The Red Baron View Post
          really nice daggers, I would really like to add a transitional to my collection, I just have not seen many nice ones like this. Do the transitional daggers usually cost more than an early due to rarity?
          They should not cost more than maker marked ones, but I agree there are not too many transitionals for sale nowadays.

          Best Regards,

          Adren

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            #6
            Wow! That's a Killer Klaas Trans. you got there LH ! Congrats!

            >> but I agree there are not too many transitionals for sale nowadays.<< (Quote:Adren)

            Correct. There used to be plenty around but never a lot. Then a few years ago collectors realized that there was only a few companies that marked their daggers in the 'Dual code'. (Some say it was the companies that refused to take their name off their product by skirting the regulations just adding the RZM code also) This also lasted a short time until eventually all had to go to only RZM ID's.

            So collectors have been buying these up and for good reason.
            Due to Transitional Collector popularity there has been a rarity makers list in circulation also. Rating starting with #1 for most common, and #5 for rare.
            These #5 transitionals are more scarce IMO than many 'rare' rated early maker maked SA daggers.
            -Again this is JMO-

            -wagner-

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              #7
              Originally posted by wags View Post
              Wow! That's a Killer Klaas Trans. you got there LH ! Congrats!

              >> but I agree there are not too many transitionals for sale nowadays.<< (Quote:Adren)

              Correct. There used to be plenty around but never a lot. Then a few years ago collectors realized that there was only a few companies that marked their daggers in the 'Dual code'. (Some say it was the companies that refused to take their name off their product by skirting the regulations just adding the RZM code also) This also lasted a short time until eventually all had to go to only RZM ID's.

              So collectors have been buying these up and for good reason.
              Due to Transitional Collector popularity there has been a rarity makers list in circulation also. Rating starting with #1 for most common, and #5 for rare.
              These #5 transitionals are more scarce IMO than many 'rare' rated early maker maked SA daggers.
              -Again this is JMO-

              -wagner-
              Is there a rarity list for transitional daggers also, or was it only for maker marks? I know the MCSARR list but is it the only one?

              Best Regards,

              Adren

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                #8
                Originally posted by The Red Baron View Post
                really nice daggers, I would really like to add a transitional to my collection, I just have not seen many nice ones like this. Do the transitional daggers usually cost more than an early due to rarity?
                Hi Red Baron.

                Yes in this quality they cost more. Its very hard to find a Klaas in this condition.

                Thanks Wags for great valuable input
                Regards LH

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by adren View Post
                  Is there a rarity list for transitional daggers also, or was it only for maker marks? I know the MCSARR list but is it the only one?

                  Best Regards,

                  Adren

                  McSAAR is for early maker marks only.

                  Transitionals list - collaboration by transitional SA collectors by my understanding.

                  If I'm in the mood to type tonight when I get home tonight I will post it here.
                  Would you guys like that?


                  -wagner-

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                    #10
                    Great Wags
                    Fill up a glass of single malt Scotch and post all the info you can about the Transitional SA variations.


                    LH

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by wags View Post
                      McSAAR is for early maker marks only.

                      Transitionals list - collaboration by transitional SA collectors by my understanding.

                      If I'm in the mood to type tonight when I get home tonight I will post it here.
                      Would you guys like that?


                      -wagner-
                      That would be great

                      Best Regards,

                      Adren

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by wags View Post
                        McSAAR is for early maker marks only.

                        Transitionals list - collaboration by transitional SA collectors by my understanding.

                        If I'm in the mood to type tonight when I get home tonight I will post it here.
                        Would you guys like that?


                        -wagner-
                        Yes please. Thank you

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                          #13
                          [QUOTE=LH 600;4194067]Well folks.

                          here is a nice to Mint quite rare SA made up by Klaas as you can see in the pics. The dagger have a Short hangar.
                          The blade is Pure mint as new. The rest of the dagger is also very nice. I think i not will find better trans SA by this maker.

                          I have many early SA into my collection. I have work hard to find a dagger like this. Finally its here

                          Hope you like it .

                          Regards LH


                          Beautiful dagger LH, looks like it just came out of factory.

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                            #14
                            SA Daggers - Transitional Marks & rarity of Occurance
                            ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                            ------Rarity 1 = Common. 5 = Rare.
                            # ----1 to 5---------Maker

                            1. ------- 4 -------------- A. Evertz, Solingen M7/85
                            2. --------3 -------------- Anton Wingen Jr. Solingen (Othello) M7/51
                            3. --------5 -------------- Carl Bocker M7/45
                            4. --------1 -------------- Carl Eickhorn, Solingen M7/66
                            5. --------5 -------------- E. Knecht & Co., Solingen M7/11
                            6. --------5 -------------- Ed Wusthof, Solingen M7/19
                            7. --------5 -------------- Ed. Gembruch, Solingen M7/8
                            8. --------5 -------------- F. & A. Helbig M/735
                            9. --------5 -------------- F. Plucher Jr., Solingen M7/62
                            10. -------2 -------------- F.W. Holler, Solingen M7/33
                            11. -------5 -------------- Gebr. Grafrath, Solingen M7/30
                            12. -------5 -------------- Herder & Engels, Solingen-Ohligs M7/63
                            13. -------4 -------------- J.A. Henckels, Zwillingswerke-Solingen M7/10
                            14. -------4 -------------- Jacobs & Co., Solingen-Grafrath M7/118
                            15. -------3 -------------- Klittermann & Moog G.M.B.H., Haan b/Solingen M7/29
                            16. -------2 -------------- Lautenjung & Co., Solingen (Tiger) M7/68
                            17. -------2 -------------- Lautenjung & Sohn, Solingen (Puma) M7/27
                            18. -------5 -------------- Richard Abr. Herder M7/18
                            19. -------5 -------------- Robert Klaas M7/37
                            20. -------3 -------------- Wilh. Wagner, Solingen-Merscheid M7/25
                            21. -------5 -------------- Zeitler, Ludwig, Wien M7/104

                            Last edited by Serge M.; 08-31-2010, 09:49 PM.

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                              #15
                              Here's a couple to 'Sweeten the Pot'.

                              -wagner-



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