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    #16
    Here is the pictures so what do you think ?

    Regards
    Derek
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      #17
      one more
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        #18
        Although the blade looks like it might be a "tad" shorter that conventional HJ knives, this knife is not one of the aluminum hilted "unattributed knives" which have flooded the market. Instead appearing to be more of a period item - albeit of a generic "Hiking Knife" variety, versus a purpose built HJ knife.

        As for the snap it looks good to me. But then I'm not an HJ specialist, and would defer to their much greater experience. FP

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          #19
          Hi,

          Here's the link with some proof of manufacturing after the war. Found in the store I'm working (Belguim) Sales catogs from the '50 or '60.

          http://worldwarmilitaria.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1458

          Regards, Theo
          Freedom is not for Free

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            #20
            yep snap poppers are period IMO always reassuring to to see 'stocko' however you could always argue that the scabbard isnt the original one so its not 100% fool proof.

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              #21
              I visited the website using the link that Theo posted. While no real surprise, it was still very interesting to see the catalogs with such things like a postwar HJ knife (minus the emblem of course) with a "no lip" scabbard. And what looked like a direct copy of the WW II Luftwaffe paratrooper knife. It makes you wonder what some of the individuals who were dealing in blades in the early years might have been thinking. FP

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                #22
                It's a bit scary indeed. The (Belgium) iron mongery I work exist for more than 100 years know. We still have many scissors, spoons and knives in stock which date from the sixties. Also one carton case from Herder with stippel pattern and a picture of a shepard with his sheeps. A few years ago, one of our workers trowed a German catalog from 1942 ! in the basket about hardware systems for garage ports. The knive catalogs were saved by me. But like I said ; they are from a later period. The plain Fahrtermesser and the Gravity knife our the two specials in that one. Written in different languages like French, Dutch and Spanish so intended for export.

                Regards, Theo
                Freedom is not for Free

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                  #23
                  I think it is an common Hj knife.
                  The different between a HJ knife and a BDM knife, is the and of the knife.
                  BDM knife is more pointed.
                  I am not an expert at all.

                  gtz

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                    #24
                    But indeed i never saw a picture with a BDM girl with a knife......

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                      #25
                      What's the story with post-war, post occupation, production of these knives for export? Assuming a variety of these were constructed legitimately, for legitimate uses (as opposed to dubious motives..fraud, etc.), wouldn't we expect to see some examples which have been state-side for decades complete with export markings?

                      Just curious. As often the case with export items, they are marked accordingly. Wondering how and if it was applicable to these post war knives...unless none were exported



                      \Tom

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                        #26
                        1950s

                        MANY different TR produced models of left over stock was exported sans swastika forsale in foreign markets. This was seen in the US in magazine ads of the 1950s into the 1960s. Atwood even bought several thousand unfinished Labor Corps Hewers sans scabbards and imported them into the US.
                        So, while the ads appeared postwar, I believe that, for the most part, all was leftover stock being moved for money period.
                        JMO,
                        Ron Weinand

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                          #27
                          Watch this fellows , see if you can compare this knife to this one in this dig.
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzsFr...eature=related

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