SS Rohm "Grinder" w/ a little history . . .

[N.C. Wyeth]

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[N.C. Wyeth]

Some further information that may offer potential for locating a family member of George Koniger was just offered to me here:

http://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewto...211742#p211742

These guys are amazing! I am attempting to see if I can locate any further information that may be of interest to the dagger . . .

Brad

[N.C. Wyeth]

By request, back to the top for further discussion . . .

Brad

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Brad, I don't see anything wrong with it?

Cheers, Ade.

[N.C. Wyeth]

Hi Brad, I don't see anything wrong with it?

Cheers, Ade.

I don't either, but as I am attempting to sell it on the E-Stand, I really do want to extend as much comfort as possible to a potential buyer . . . someone contacted me earlier and expressed a desire to start a discussion about it - I just thought I'd drag these old comments up as well for him . . .

It was always one of my favorite items - it will be hard to let go . . .

Brad

[Adrian Stevenson]

To be honest Brad, I have looked at it a few times. If I had the money, I would have bought it.

Cheers, Ade.

[N.C. Wyeth]

To be honest Brad, I have looked at it a few times. If I had the money, I would have bought it.

Cheers, Ade.

I guess that means I don't stand much of a chance at putting you into the grip of lovely, little M36 either . . .

Brad

[pvluger]

Love it when the info is found on these! Nice!

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Brad, sadly not

What did appeal to me was the fact it was attributed and it was also a Rohm. With me already having an attributed '33 plus an attributed '36 it would have fitted in very well into my collection.

Cheers, Ade.

[BOB K. (RKSS)]

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Dagger appears 100% authentic, but I suspect it had a Rohm dedication ADD'd after the War; because it has a Full size trademark, & I am certain that Herder was using a small reduced size trademark placed close to the crossguard (as was required for proper placement of dedication) . In the late 1950's & early 1960's: there were dealers in England adding Rohm inscriptions to authentic blades to raise their profits; these were same dealers who were Etching various SS & other markings on Combat K-98 Bayonets. Looks like that Rohm inscription was removed by commercial metal grinding machine. Not trying to "rain on anyone's parade", but that's My opinion

[N.C. Wyeth]

[quote=BOB K. (RKSS);2969283]Dagger appears 100% authentic, but I suspect it had a Rohm dedication ADD after the War; because it has a Full size trademark, & I am certain that Herder was using a small reduced size trademark placed close to the crossguard (as was required for proper placement of dedication) . [quote]

No, I don't believe that's true - even the book by Wittmann shows many examples that say otherwise . . . check it out for yourself - before I picked the dagger up long ago, I had to do so as well!

Brad

[N.C. Wyeth]

Bob,

Here's another link for anyone interested about the trademark/inscription confusion:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...er+Ground+Rohm

Maybe it will help . . .

Brad

[N.C. Wyeth]

One of the nicest things I have found about the dagger is the grip. Although it is missing two sections, there is just something about it - it has much better cut contours and features than many other Herder's that I have had in the past. It almost makes me believe that when the grips were made for Rohm daggers, Herder might have spent a little more time on their grip carvings . . .

Go figure?

Brad

[N.C. Wyeth]

"RaymondG", an Admin. over at the "World War Militaria" Forum, just passed this bit of information on to me - in his collection, he has a recording that is dated August of 1934, and is a short list about SS men with privately owned weapons.

Apparently, Mr. Königer owned a Walther pistol in 7.65 mm as well . . .

I wonder what else will turn up about him?

Brad

[Skyline Drive]

Dagger appears 100% authentic, but I suspect it had a Rohm dedication ADD'd after the War; because it has a Full size trademark, & I am certain that Herder was using a small reduced size trademark placed close to the crossguard (as was required for proper placement of dedication)

This is not correct. Herder did NOT use a smaller maker mark on their Rohm inscription blades. However, this same attribute has allowed fakers the opportunity to create full, partial and ground Rohms from non-inscription original Herder blades.