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    1936 Ss

    Hello,

    I'd like to know Your opinion about this dagger. It is Early Eickchorn with small logo (Ground Roehm I think). Scabbard is anodized with magnetic chain and fittings (II type). Is this normal to find early marked dagger in 1936 scabbard?

    podstoli

    http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2850/pict0840te3.jpg

    http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/3943/pict0841nw6.jpg

    http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2213/pict0842qk0.jpg

    http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9669/pict0843tm4.jpg

    #2
    It happens from time to time, but it is generally accepted that production '36 SS daggers were void of a maker's mark or RZM mark. There are cases where vet acquired chained scabbards have maker- or RZM-marked daggers in them. Normally this would be the result of either 1.) the dagger's original recipient "upgrading" his dagger with the '36 model scabbard after being authorized to do so or 2.) a souvenir hunting GI, Tommy, etc. grabbed a chained scabbard and a dagger with a marked blade and put them together.

    Either way, you will likely find yourself in the position of having to explain the combination when the time comes to sell. IMHO, hold out for one with an unmarked blade.

    Hope that helps,
    Skip

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      #3
      This one is mine and will probably stay with me for a long time. I have found some daggers like mine. I think that "upgrading" option is more possible.

      Honestly I enjoy this one because it is "all in one dagger":

      - ground off blade
      - early dagger
      - anodized scabbard
      - nice chain
      - nickel silver eagle and crossguards (marked I)

      what else can I get ???

      By the way I have another 1933 SS with inscription od Erich von dem Bach Zalewski. This one is cool. How many dagers like this exists ?

      podstoli

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        #4
        This one is mine and will probably stay with me for a long time. I have found some daggers like mine. I think that "upgrading" option is more possible.

        Honestly I enjoy this one because it is "all in one dagger":

        - ground off blade
        - early dagger
        - anodized scabbard
        - nice chain
        - nickel silver eagle and crossguards (marked I)

        what else can I get ???

        By the way I have another 1933 SS with inscription od Erich von dem Bach Zalewski. This one is cool. How many dagers like this exists ?

        podstoli

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          #5
          Originally posted by podstoli View Post
          This one is mine and will probably stay with me for a long time. I have found some daggers like mine. I think that "upgrading" option is more possible.

          Honestly I enjoy this one because it is "all in one dagger":

          - ground off blade
          - early dagger
          - anodized scabbard
          - nice chain
          - nickel silver eagle and crossguards (marked I)

          what else can I get ???

          By the way I have another 1933 SS with inscription od Erich von dem Bach Zalewski. This one is cool. How many dagers like this exists ?

          podstoli

          Hello

          Can We see that one with inscription of Erich von dem Bach Zalewski.. It is very interesting dagger I think.

          regards
          Mr Piter

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            #6
            No problem. When only I take pics I will paste'em here.

            podstoli

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              #7
              Looks really good. I own "no logo" M36, which in my opinion, looks very much like Eickhorn piece to me (I'm still trying to identify the maker) . What's the tang marking on yours, and is there any latin numeral on the lower crossguard in the place, where the edge of the blade meets the crossguard bottom? (mine is stamped 5 - typically Eickhorn)
              It would be nice to see some photos of the blade reverse.
              Pzdr

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                #8
                Originally posted by 777 View Post
                Looks really good. I own "no logo" M36, which in my opinion, looks very much like Eickhorn piece to me (I'm still trying to identify the maker) . What's the tang marking on yours, and is there any latin numeral on the lower crossguard in the place, where the edge of the blade meets the crossguard bottom? (mine is stamped 5 - typically Eickhorn)
                It would be nice to see some photos of the blade reverse.
                Pzdr
                Hello,

                My crossguard (lower one) is stamped with "I" (roman number).

                Tang of the blade is unmarked but crossguards inside are stamped HE.

                Next time I will put pics of the reverse side.

                Put pictures of Your piece - would be nice to look at.

                Pozdro
                podstoli

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                  #9
                  Here are pics of my 1933 piece with von dem Bach inscription.
                  Condition of the blade is as You can see but no one could force me to sell it. I know only two other daggers like this one. Finding another one is like winning a milion dollar.

                  podstoli

                  http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7844/pict0850tx3.jpg

                  http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/668/pict0851uj1.jpg

                  http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8507/pict0852yk2.jpg

                  http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8290/pict0853kl0.jpg

                  http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4250/pict0854jt5.jpg

                  http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7489/pict0855rh0.jpg

                  http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6698/pict0856un5.jpg

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                    #10
                    dear 777 all m36 ss dolch are without marker logo,and are made by EICKHORN.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by besslein View Post
                      dear 777 all m36 ss dolch are without marker logo,and are made by EICKHORN.
                      Dear Arek , read please, what Mr.Wittman wrote about that:
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                        #12
                        Podstoli, your presentation dagger looks very interesting indeed. As we all know, there is lot of the "dedication" blades nowadays, that should be viewed with caution, but if you know what you have and it's genuine piece, then congratulations
                        Here are some shots of my dagger. Guards, fittings, chain and insignia made of nickle silver.
                        http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sguardspa5.jpg
                        http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ipchainad6.jpg
                        http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?i...cabbardij0.jpg
                        http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?i...detailstn1.jpg

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                          #13
                          just clicked one time too much...
                          Last edited by 777; 02-04-2007, 12:04 PM. Reason: mystake

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by 777 View Post
                            Podstoli, your presentation dagger looks very interesting indeed. As we all know, there is lot of the "dedication" blades nowadays, that should be viewed with caution, but if you know what you have and it's genuine piece, then congratulations
                            Thanks a lot. I'm sure of my dedication blade.

                            podstoli

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