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    #31
    It's noted that he recceived both the Ehrendegen and Ehrendolch.

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      #32
      Last edited by damasco; 11-18-2013, 12:46 PM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by damasco View Post
        There's no need to bang your head. I read you loud and clear, and you are right IMO with perhaps just a minor adjustment. Best Regards, Fred

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          #34
          A treasure, waiting to be discovered [again?] . . .

          Funny to see this resurface again . . . I recall a visit to the backroom of this auction house . . . and I can honestly say, it is overwhelming how much stuff comes through the place. On my visit, there were a few things that left me cold . . . but my favorite thing - amongst all the chaos - had to be the sculpture in bronze. It was magnificent!
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            #35
            Originally posted by Frogprince View Post
            The sword is the sum of all of its parts, and posted below is a link to one of the original discussions. It was also discussed on GDC, and I might have some better resolution photos, but won't know until I get back this afternoon to see if I have them (and can find them with my files in the process of a reorganization). Fred

            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...brunner&page=5
            That the man existed and received various awards was never in question. I also don't need to continue my search. The information is out there if anyone wants look at it and can interpret what is there in the images. Fred

            http://www.cowanauctions.com/auction...?ItemId=135496

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              #36
              Because of the names and reputations of those involved the topic was generally treated in a relatively oblique or circuitous manner which is understandable. And time and again more pictures were asked for to try and arrive at a more accurate conclusion. So I am presenting this image of one of the areas (a partial of the signature on the blade) that was asked for earlier - with no immediate further comment other than I think that the image needs to be studied closely. Fred

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                #37
                My god, what an ugly sword.
                If it were a Himmler's gift, I would expect 800 silver fittings on it...

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                  #38
                  Was somebody playing with a laser??

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                    #39
                    ...no, more like somebody is dropping acid.

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                      #40
                      The picture tells all

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by damasco View Post
                        The picture tells all


                        Yes it does, and some others I have show more of the same. Fred

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                          #42
                          A close look at the photos show it is a parts sword.
                          D guard doesn't match the handle fittings, also bad - sub standard "damascus".
                          Rubbish sword.
                          Steve

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                            #43
                            The close ups are horrendous!

                            We really need a puke symbol for cases like this.

                            Tony
                            An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

                            "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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                              #44
                              Is this the sword that made a 'Advance Collector' leave the hobby after the Kool-Aid wore off ?

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                                #45
                                While I’ve dabbled in them, I’m not a Damascus specialist myself. And I accepted this earlier statement with the poor quality photos at face value: “I will say that the blade on this sword is the most beautiful and spectacular piece of workmanship I have ever seen. It was certainly made by a master of the art of damascus or under his direct supervision. IMO it is NOT a fake. The photos don't do it justice at all.”

                                With the only thing that I agree with being that the early photos that were posted back then did not tell the real story of how this sword was created (ie:modified) - which includes the blade.

                                With what was also said to us being as follows: “It has a very interesting history going back to the beginning of the hobby-about 50 years+.” And while lasers were not around back then other technologies were. And I don’t mean the traditional German ones - except perhaps as a final step. Fred

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