Figured I share this visor that I was able to add to my collection a couple of months ago...
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Diplomatic Corps Senior official's field grey visor
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Originally posted by pauke View PostVery nice, Kurt. What level of diplomatic corps wore the gold piping/insignia? Just not a Golden Pheasant however. Any indication of the hat maker?
unfortunately, I have no clue who the maker of this visor is. Maybe others have an idea here.
The question about the rank is more easily answered. This visor would have been worn by Chief Officials (group I): Reichsaussenminister, Staatssekretär, Botschafter, Unterstaatssekretär & Ministerialdirektor. The rank of Ministerialdirigent (roughly equivalent to a Generalmajor in military terms), already wore silver insignia with gold piping. That said, as member ebj already pointed out, the visor could also have been worn by chief government officials outside the Reich of equivalent rank...
Kurt
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Originally posted by ebj View PostNice cap, interesting color. After 1939 the field-grey uniform was restricted to those areas outside Germany, to include the Generalgouvernement Poland.
"The gray service uniform is reserved exclusively for the environment of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Members of the Foreign Office can use it during their stay at the headquarters."
When a consul, envoy, ambassador, etc. had to go to the headquarters of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, he had to go uniformed with the gray uniform
This refers to the Diplomatic personnel dependent on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. I imagine that it was not so for the Officials of other Ministries
In the attached images you can see the heading of the Ministerial Order and the referred point 7
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Originally posted by BenVK View PostGolden Pheasants!
This was the name commonly used for political leaders from the NSDAP after they got their new uniform in 1939
with its golden fittings!!
Later it was taken over occasionally for also military and other authorities and such.Last edited by wilhelm Saris; 01-16-2019, 05:41 AM.
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firstly the cap is quite impressive and clearly of period production, but I beg a question.
In reading many hat threads I often see people complain about poorly sewn insignia, particularly when the sewing goes through the lining. Why does that NOT seem to be of any concern with this cap. The insignia is very poorly sewn and both eagle and wreath appear to have been poorly restored to the cap. I would expect much better for a high ranking officials cap. Does the rarity make the resewn insignia insignificant in this case?
Not trying to be a smart arsch, just trying to understand cap "etiquette".
Thank,
W.Unland
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