Look something like the 2nd flatware example to me...Billbert
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I would pass.Comment
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I would be very comfortable adding this cap to my collection. The white-piped, later war officer M43's with non-flatwire insignia combination are common. I agree the gabardine looks more German than Italian, but you can tell in hand instantly.
Absolutely nothing points to this cap being replica - for me, it would be an easy decision if the price were right.
regards, RobertComment
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Excellent. German gabardine (tricot) or Italian, it is a good original.
s/f RobertComment
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It's not tricotine. Tricotine has a very thin rib pattern and has no wool nap. It was used for windproof caps and clothing.Originally posted by billbert View Post
Here's a tricotine example.
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Nice illustrative posting, Tony. A picture says a thousand words.
I have German gabardine that looks almost identical to the Italian made material, but they feel different and the inside nap is different.
I really like the tricot you posted, Tony. Most of what I'm familiar with that's made from that material is GJ army, but I've seen good examples posted and in references that are SS.
s/f RobertComment
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I see these images from a mobile so is difficult to judge. I like this cap also if i can't realize the material used. For sure not gabardine but in officer cap we often see different materials moreover rich when privately purchased.this exame could be done by owner.
I think to note different patona inside outside, more threads used with different sewing.Comment
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Tk sewing is uncommon like some stitching details on little segments but I do not care to much. Of course the owner could spot different inside patina and all other features did not showed as backnof button holes.Comment
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Judged with a mass produced m43 nco of course.Originally posted by Panzergrenadiere71 View Post
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Here imo we must judge it as a private purchase cap. All details remind to a slow work, for example in the button zone we saw only a row of stitching nicely curved with a lower step in sewing. Also the tk is stitched in a unusual way and really over than perfect. If i must say what i like less is the visor... cause it looks quite a circle but is a detail.
This is not mean it s ok tout court, i like more than dislike, and i would say an hand inspection it is necessary.
Last year i managed 2 m43 officier, both seems fake in photos... both were good in hands and with other pics.Comment
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"Private purchase" is usually another word for making a questionable cap original.Originally posted by viva_giulio View Post
These caps are faked beyond universe , therefor the examples we see and buy must speak for itself.
William.
Ofcorse you can be happy with it and keep it, but if the day comes when you must sell it, you will probably have a hard time selling it.
Its just an advice from me, i have no more comments about the cap.
//Daniel.Comment
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"Private purchase" is usually another word for making a questionable cap original.
DAnny can you show to me a mass produced m43 officier cap not statni?
We know a lot of version of m43 officier.
In coombat wool (rarest) in german trikot (rare) in italian gabardine (common) tircotine (really rare) with so much lining type from cotton to htb.
When you consider to buy an officier m43 SS cap you MUST consider to have a not textbook situation cause materials, threads and work.
Only statni have a smaller variants *threads, lining) but follow the same rules.
The point is another, for me... if there is a doubt give to the man who can handle it the points of view. This cap has positive and negative points and needs an hand inspection (or other pics at least). Maybe the most important m43 SS collector and for sure the most valuated collector fault the opinion based on pics i-ve sent cause i had also doubts when i received them. When the cap arrived to home and i make pics all doubts vanished. I would not bet 100 Eur on the cap based on initial pics but handle is another planet.
ps buy an m43 officier, if not in trikot or in the few textbook examples is an hard job... personally i find very few m43 officier i would buy at first eye. Is one of the items must be checked with hand inspection. Topic started with a consideration this cap is into a collection. BOUGHT. we have the brain to do not destroy an item if we are not sure about it-s fake. I would pass of Emilio is accepted and it s a position i believeComment
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Hey Mauro.
I was speaking in general, i have no comments about this cap exept that he will get a hard time selling it when the time for selling it comes, that you can probaly agree with me on.
I do agree with you on the pics kontra handling in hand though, i have seen many pictures of items and in hand its a whole different cap.
//Daniel.Comment
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