The Soft-HEADGEAR Market in 10-30 years

[90th Light]

Dealers buying back at 100% or more? What are the dealers smoking in New Zealand?

No, Europe, USA, Russia, Japan and the odd time South East Asia. We are brought up here now in New Zealand, we are a trading nation to get the things we want plus standard of living desired. Thus we have opened our free market up to the world. Something the USA may also eventually have to face as economic challenges continue into the future.

I am a great believer in the rules, "you make when you buy but rarely when you sell", "getting to know who you deal with" and "win/ win ongoing business which sometimes comes down to, do good business or do bad business but keep doing business"

The only real challenge/ cost of getting the items to such places from here safe and sound,

Chris

[Koguryo9]

I think it's a great thing that young collectors can not afford an SS visor!
But that's not to say that I agree with the prices of SS visors! They've always been way over priced IMO.

It's ridiculous when you actually analysis it. Half of the value is based on the insignia alone!!

Ben, why do you think it is a great thing they can not afford to buy one? Because they need to really appreciate them for being what they are?

In my opinion things will not change that much in 10 years. But 30 years? I don't know. I mean I have been to both SOS and the MAX shows and most collectors and dealers are men in their 60's and older, at least that is my impression. 30 years from now these men will most likely be dead, no offense. What will they do before they get into their 90's? They will probably have to sell them to finance their long term care (nursing home, home heath care etc.). Who will they sell the caps to?

[BenVK]

I just think that a lot of youngsters these days expect everything to be handed to them on a plate without having to work for it.

[BrianK]

Well, I'm still thinking Economics is the same in the US, Europe, New Zealand or the South Pole. A dealer paying 100% of the selling price will not stay in business long. It must be a short term aberration. Also I have noticed in collectibles that prices go in cycles that last for years. There also seems to be a noticeable peak before a price decline. Of course this is not all bad, as it presents a buying opportunity for the longer term.

[90th Light]

Well, I'm still thinking Economics is the same in the US, Europe, New Zealand or the South Pole. A dealer paying 100% of the selling price will not stay in business long. It must be a short term aberration. Also I have noticed in collectibles that prices go in cycles that last for years. There also seems to be a noticeable peak before a price decline. Of course this is not all bad, as it presents a buying opportunity for the longer term.

Their all still in business and going strong Brian,

I suppose it comes down to the fact that I got a choice item off them at the right price in the first place. Plus I have always brought more and more off them. In many cases the item I traded was sold the next day or within a week. Thus they had made another sale to me and an additional sale to someone else.

There will always be those who are more successful in business from turnover than those who try to hold out for silly prices. That was what was achieved in all the cases I was involved in, fast turn-over at smaller margins. That spells business success in Economics/ Accounting of any country,

Chris

[ROBB]

Officers reasonably priced always sell . The rest need to be priced at non dealers prices (. 50% less ) then you need to get lucky . It appears to me currently people are selling up . Rob

[jayjay198666]

should e stand prices be at least 25% less than dealer to sell.

[BrianK]

I think cloth headgear, except for the SS stuff, never went wild with prices in the pre 2008 days. That's why it is holding its own pricewise better than some other TR areas.

[stonemint]

Given the amount of money that is being pissed away on (bad) fakes, the headgear end of the hobby is very healthy:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=544347

[no1canuck]

Given the amount of money that is being pissed away on (bad) fakes, the headgear end of the hobby is very healthy:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=544347

You would think anyone spending that kind of money would try some research! Must have enough to piss it away i quess.

Steve

[R.Beck]

Given the amount of money that is being pissed away on (bad) fakes, the headgear end of the hobby is very healthy:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=544347

+1

[Robert Shoaf]

Over the past few months, it seems that Estand prices for the most common caps have softened, at least for the most part. There have been some good buys, IMHO.
However, not surprisingly, I do not see anything in concert with this at dealers' websites. The high prices continue to be listed, as far as I can see. I'm also seeing many of the same caps week after week, month after month. How long is that $20k Luftwaffe general's cap going to stay around?
I must also say that I am heartily sick of the absurd prices for SS headgear; $ 2,000 for an eagle and totenkopf, sans the cap??
I can understand high prices for KM caps, they ARE actually somewhat scarce, given the actual size of the Navy vs. other services.
Hell, I don't care about 30 years hence; I'll likely be history by then, perhaps even at 20 years.
I DO hope to acquire some reasonably priced visor caps in the time remaining to me.
Rant concluded, and I hope the recent trend continues.

Bob Shoaf