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    Coastal Artillery Bergmutze

    Here is a fun one. It has stamps for the former LW museum in Uetersen. I have been trying to figure out in the eagle and kokarde are period or if this was restored as a KM hat from a Heer Bergmutze.
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      #3
      markedly since 1942 can only be a Bergmutze with other internal construction regards sergio

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        #4
        It is a bergmutze, I am just wondering if KM were issued these as well. Coastal Artillery used a lot of different and often odd uniform items.

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          #5
          Must be a General's one! Seriously, this just looks like a nice original cap that for whatever reason ended up with a coastal artillery eagle. Looks original, well-marked, and text-book other than the eagle.

          You could take your pick of theories on how it ended up with a hand-sewn yellow eagle, but I would welcome such a cap in my own collection.

          s/f Robert

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            #6
            Original eagle. Are there signs of earlier T eagle & cockade, looks like there might have been?

            Regards,

            Jerry
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              #7
              Original bergmutze, the CA insignas are odd...but very well applied and IMO since a long time, I would add there is no interest for a collector or a dealer to reapplied inappropriate insignas..
              So, probably war time assembled, period pics show enough similar curiosity to don't be surprised by this cap....

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                There is moth tracking over the eagle that makes it look like a "T" shape but it is really hard to tell. I am going on a trip tomorrow and already packed my camera but here is a scanned image. I would love to restore it as GJ but of course would never remove the eagle unless I was 100% sure it was post War. Museums (I worked in two) like to create things, this was very common to see in the 50s and 60s more then today.
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                  #9
                  Disregarding the KM insignia which I don't think belong there, it looks like an acceptable original Heer cap with the cloth underside to the peak and what seems to be a visor cap leather sweatband.

                  Holes for an edelweiss on the side?

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                    #10
                    I would leave it as is...Could have very well been worn by CA or Heer General officer,I like how the insignia is sewn.









                    Glenn
                    "A Man's Got to Know His Limitations"

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Glenn McInnes View Post
                      I would leave it as is..
                      Me too, can't be sure they're not originally applied, just don't think they are personally.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by BenVK View Post
                        can't be sure they're not originally applied, just don't think they are personally.



                        Hands on is always best with hats of course but the 2 piece insignia configuration was certainly used...Here is an untouched Bergmutze with the cockarde sewn similar.









                        Glenn
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                          #13
                          Glad to see you've still got that cap Glenn, it's one of my all time favourites.

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                            #14
                            The sewing could go either way from photos, but I think a Heer general officer would have added gold bullion or celleon piping to the crown. Nice original quality cap to start with, and maybe the hands on can help make a determination.

                            Richard

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                              #15
                              I will be back in a couple days and dig it out again. It does not have any noticeable indications of an Edelweiss. Thank you

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